OT - It's the carbs stupid!

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Post by DreamStalker » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:03 pm

kteague wrote:Just adding one of my favorite ways to cook just about anything...

I've got one of those skillets with the ridges and use it for meats and veggies. Have used it for skinless chicken breasts, steak, and pork chops, and asparagus is great in it. But the method for getting flavor into the meat will work with any skillet.

When cooking the meat, put just enough water in the skillet to simmer the seasoned meat till done (1/4"?). (No, this will not taste like boiled meat.) Just as it's about to simmer dry, guard it like a watchdog, allowing it to brown, and flip the meat. Just before the browning can turn to burning add a little more (few spoonfuls?) of water and it will sizzle and simmer up a wonderful broth that will evaporate quickly and the leave the meat looking browned and soooo flavorful. After removing the meat, add a tad bit more water and saute' your veggies. No fat added and everything tastes great.

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Kathy -

I think they call that deglazing. The chefs on the Food Network often use broth or wine instead of water but the technique is the same. I use it a lot myself too.
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Eggs?

Post by Captain_Midnight » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:29 pm

Babette writes...Are eggs a white food?

Babette raises a good q. I'm sure that eggs are given special exemption (as well as "white" meat poultry.)

BTW, egg yolks, however, are bad news if you eat too many.


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Post by Treesap » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:03 pm

Cauliflower is a good white food.
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Post by Babette » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:14 pm

I hate cauliflower! And here I was going to swear to my Mom I couldn't eat it anymore!

Hmmmm.... Kathy's technique with a little wine would be a "braise". Yummy!!!

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Post by rubberchimp » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:30 pm

When I started reading about the sleep disorders, pre-diabetes, hormonal imbalance and nutrition, I came upon Mark's Daily Apple. It's a blog about nutrition/exercise and general healthy living, with an emphasis on "primal nutrition" and trying to maintain a lifestyle with similar diet and exercise to what our forebears experienced before the (first) agricultural revolution.

Basically, he talks about eating buttloads of veg, with protein and a small amount of fruit with minimal processed foods and grains, while advocating a varied exercise programme.

The idea of primal nutrition appeals to me... and the science seems to fit with recent findings with regard to insulin response and low-carb dieting.

I'm not a doctor, so I can't speak authoratively about the site, but it has so far proved to be an interesting resource for learning about nutrition and other health issues. Plus it's fun - I like his style and his way of explaining things. As always, you need to be careful about trusting anything on the interwebs... Mark doesn't seem overzealous about pushing his own products, but does have an aggressive dislike of the pharma companies and other corporate food/health interests. Still, he seems to be ahead of the curve in many areas.

Appropriately, his most recent article is about the benefits of proper sleep

Edit: Corrected fouled link (oops!)
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Re: OT - It's the carbs stupid!

Post by dont be a dumbass » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:16 am

DreamStalker wrote:Makes sense, our species evolved as hunter/gatherers and not really designed (intelligently or not) to eat breads and candy ... and the corn industry is trying to convince us that HFCS is natural and no more harmful than sugar
You're right. We're not suppose to eat vegetables, just meat, milk and water . And yeah stupid, fruits and vegetables are carbs too.

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Re: OT - It's the carbs stupid!

Post by DreamStalker » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:34 am

dont be a dumbass wrote:
DreamStalker wrote:Makes sense, our species evolved as hunter/gatherers and not really designed (intelligently or not) to eat breads and candy ... and the corn industry is trying to convince us that HFCS is natural and no more harmful than sugar
You're right. We're not suppose to eat vegetables, just meat, milk and water . And yeah stupid, fruits and vegetables are carbs too.
I said nothing about not eating vegetables or fruits ... only a dumbass would have interpreted that from my quote or the linked article
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Post by Amontilado » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:38 am

D. and Babs,

Another idea that I use every once in awhile is to get the big back of chicken breast, or fresh if they are on sale, do them up on the frill with a little season salt, or teriaki, then wrap them individually in wax paper and stor in a big, resealable bag, A lot easier to eat right when a main ingredient for a nice big salad is already ready.

Got back eating sweet potatoes when a local BBQ joint (had a killer smoked turkey salad) also offered smoked sweet potatoes, albeit with cinammon butter. Now just like them with a little butter, baked of course, not nuked.

Another good recipe that I picked up in Mother Earth News is for Brussell Sprouts.
Take fresh sprouts and clean then, cutting into half.
Toss with a bit of olive oil and garlic powder, maybe a bit of lemon juice.
Bake at 375 for 22 mins, turning once or twice. I like my crispy, with some of the leaves browned. My wife like 'em underdone , with them still crunchy. The M.E.N. recipe adds bacon and more lemon juice at the end, but I like em just the way they are.

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Post by Country4ever » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:01 am

Rubberchimp..........thanks for that link. It sounds similar to a book called "Paleo diet".

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Post by houltkin » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:13 am

Houltkin, What could you do about that? It is almost ALWAYS a matter of priorities, isn't it?
Karen - Yes it is priorities but also, like an alcoholic, a horse that is in charge of one's life. A lot of us can't control the horse.

We americans are so into food and the advertisers know it. Show me a good salad and I even want that. I'm sure there is a relevant set of 12 steps for me too.

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Post by DreamStalker » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:16 am

rubberchimp wrote:When I started reading about the sleep disorders, pre-diabetes, hormonal imbalance and nutrition, I came upon Mark's Daily Apple. It's a blog about nutrition/exercise and general healthy living, with an emphasis on "primal nutrition" and trying to maintain a lifestyle with similar diet and exercise to what our forebears experienced before the (first) agricultural revolution.

Basically, he talks about eating buttloads of veg, with protein and a small amount of fruit with minimal processed foods and grains, while advocating a varied exercise programme.

The idea of primal nutrition appeals to me... and the science seems to fit with recent findings with regard to insulin response and low-carb dieting.

I'm not a doctor, so I can't speak authoratively about the site, but it has so far proved to be an interesting resource for learning about nutrition and other health issues. Plus it's fun - I like his style and his way of explaining things. As always, you need to be careful about trusting anything on the interwebs... Mark doesn't seem overzealous about pushing his own products, but does have an aggressive dislike of the pharma companies and other corporate food/health interests. Still, he seems to be ahead of the curve in many areas.

Appropriately, his most recent article is about the benefits of proper sleep
The link is incorrect ... here is the right one I believe -
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

Your description of the site's philosophy seems to be very much in line with my own. I only glanced at it but it does look like a great site. Will have to bookmark it and check it out when I have more time.
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Post by houltkin » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:18 am

Treesap wrote:Cauliflower is a good white food.
It sure is (with a little green at the base anyway). I love cauliflower, and have baked it into delicious mac & cheese. Of course the mac & cheese keeps the carb load up.

I guess I just don't care for plain things at all. I will do steamed cauliflower with a lot of lemon pepper and a little butter or butter spray.

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Post by rubberchimp » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:40 am

Country4ever: Yeah, Mark's dietary advice is pretty much the same thing known as the Paleo diet... he combines it with an exercise regime in line with what our ancestors probably did most days before the working week was invented (based on the typical activity involved in hunting, foraging & escaping from scary things with teeth and/or horns )

DreamStalker: Thanks for posting the corrected link! I've updated my first post so it won't be sending anyone else to an incorrect URL.

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Re: Eggs?

Post by roster » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:01 am

Captain_Midnight wrote:..

BTW, egg yolks, however, are bad news if you eat too many.
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Captain,

Check the legitimate studies on eggs, not the popular news media. That is old discredited information.

Whole eggs, particularly if eaten raw, have always been a wonderful health food.

I eat two raw eggs whipped up with an ounce of olive oil and a few ounces of orange juice every morning that I can. The eggs I buy even claim to contain 400 mg omega-3 due to the diet the chickens are fed.

I traveled this weekend and made sure I had three-egg Western omelets each morning. Now as for being unhealthy, the potatoes they want to put on the plate are what I avoid.

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Post by Guest » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:11 am

Drinking raw eggs, huh? Gee, if I wanted to drink a bucket of snot, I can think of lots more fun ways to go about it.

Yes, DS, now is the time for you to jump in and complain about the effets of too much 02 on my brain... See what .7 AHI will do to a girl?

I scrambled 3 eggs on Saturday, tossed a spoonful of pico de gallo on 'em and wulfed them down.

Of course, they'd been in my fridge for 6 months, and later that day my stomach hurt...

But nothing that eating a large Elephant Ear at the local fair wouldn't cure.

Anyway, just to be sure, I tossed those eggs out and vow to buy more.

LOL,
Babs