Microsoft no longer sells Windows XP

[soranny]

Friday, June 27, was the last day of work in Microsoft Corporation founder Bill Gates. Monday, June 30, was the last day, when partners received copies of Microsoft operating system Windows XP, created seven years ago. Microsoft is planning to stop supplying Windows XP as early as January 2008. The more so that the operating system Windows Vista, which, on the idea were to move users XP, has been on sale in late 2006 years.Íî Vista many disliked.Microsoft under pressure from computer manufacturers extended the deadline for the end of your Windows XP operating system until the end of June 2008. Postponement of Microsoft Corporation Hour XP at the end of June did not crush XP. They appealed to the leadership of the corporation in the project Save XP with the request "not to kill Windows XP". As of June 27, 2008 petition signed by the relevant more than 210 thousand people.

[Snoredog]

Friday, June 27, was the last day of work in Microsoft Corporation founder Bill Gates. Monday, June 30, was the last day, when partners received copies of Microsoft operating system Windows XP, created seven years ago. Microsoft is planning to stop supplying Windows XP as early as January 2008. The more so that the operating system Windows Vista, which, on the idea were to move users XP, has been on sale in late 2006 years.Íî Vista many disliked.Microsoft under pressure from computer manufacturers extended the deadline for the end of your Windows XP operating system until the end of June 2008. Postponement of Microsoft Corporation Hour XP at the end of June did not crush XP. They appealed to the leadership of the corporation in the project Save XP with the request "not to kill Windows XP". As of June 27, 2008 petition signed by the relevant more than 210 thousand people.

oh well, go here you can download ubuntu desktop for free, it already has Firefox installed and OpenOffice, no hardware upgrade needed, no viruses, no trojans, nearly all the software for it you install is free.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

[dsm]

Our corporation along with many others have mandated no Vista is to be used for connecting to our internal LANs nationwide. There have been a few exceptions (I approved some of them only becausewe weren't able to backlevel the supplied PCs to XP & needed to proceed).

Vista causes significant administration problems & is not well integrated to domain administration.

The worst problems with Vista occur when someone buys a PC with Vista Home Basic & it then gets upgraded to Vista Business (Home Basic has no Domain support). These PCs prove unmanageable. The other gotcha with Vista is the introduction of separate spaces for users so that any installed software is separated out to eaxh users own space or to group space. Microsoft are trying to pave the way for virtualization of applications & thus the intention is good but the backward compatibility breaks. The separate spaces feature causes many installed apps to not work and that breaks our business.

But of all the issues for us, was that Vista would require us to refresh our 2,4oo PCs a year or two earlier than we budgeted for due to poor performance on our current generation. Dell supply us & Dell know we won't buy Vista.

DSM

[Guest]

I understand that the deadline for not selling XP has been extended.

[goose]

I'm still running XP and will NOT run Vista any time soon.
When an upgrade is done, it's not done just because it's an upgrade. It's done because you get some additional advantage or functionality for the upgrade effort.....Vista doesn't have anything most people or corporations need that XP doesn't have.

I'm also running Ubuntu on another machine. Once XP is no longer supported (supposed to be 2014, but we all know about M$'s commitments), I'll be back to Linux and be rid of Windoze once and for all....(Ran Red Hat for years until they went "enterprise" and screwed all the people who got them to where they are. Fedora support is badly lacking...)
When I upgrade this laptop I'll also put up Ubuntu on it so if I need Windoze it will be available.....

cheers
goose

[myapapismadhot]

"oh well, go here you can download ubuntu desktop for free, it already has Firefox installed and OpenOffice, no hardware upgrade needed, no viruses, no trojans, nearly all the software for it you install is free. "

I think you're painting a too rosy picture of linux. It's not for the average person. There are still, and always will be, problems with drivers of peripheral devices. A hardware upgrade or change may be needed. Not all motherboards are supported by Ubuntu. Doing anything out of the box means using the command line. Of course, command line commands vary by distro, so even if you can find instructions online about what you're doing, they have to fit your distro. Ubuntu itself is fragmented. You have Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, etc, so if you have a problem and find an answer on their forums, it might not even apply to you.

Linux is great for the server world or for the hobbyist who likes wasting a full afternoon making a scanner work, but it's not for the average person. There's a reason why it's free and almost nobody uses it.

Suggesting a Mac for a home desktop would be a much better idea. Also, Microsoft has stopped selling XP, but you'll still be able to find copies. They're still releasing security fixes for it and given how ingrained it is in the corporate infrastructure, it will be around for a long time to come.

[DreamDiver]

I can buy a Mac with VMWare Fusion or Parallels that will include XP Pro or Home today. I think Dell is also still selling new computers with XP.

It is still being sold as part of Original Equipment Manufacturer desktops and laptops. Basically you have to buy a Vista license and a 'downgrade' to XP. I think it should be called a cross grade. Vista is just another Windows 'Me' fiasco, as far as I'm concerned. By the time Windows 7 is out, I'm afraid Ubuntu will have capture enough of the governmental market to make governments seriously reconsider proprietary business software solutions. It's already happening in some states.

[WearyOne]

Dell does still sell some of its computers with the option of either Vista or XP.

Last year when my son had to by a laptop for college, the "deals through the college" at Dell (for the one we could afford) only came with Vista. He disliked it so much that he bought an OEM version of XP on Amazon and replaced Vista. It's worked great since. I ended up going back to the same person at Amazon and bought myself an OEM version of XP in case when I have to buy another computer, I can't find one with XP. Never have used MAC, but can't because all the software I use, and all my clients, use PC's.

[JeffH]

I'm sick of Dell and Microsoft. Mac, here I come.

[oakmont]

Im running Vista 64bit and absolutely love it... rock solid... office 2007 is an extraordinary office suite well designed and intuitive. I thought I'd never leave XP but Vista truly works great and the security is excellent

[Goofproof]

I haven't joined in till now, because I considered this to be a spam post, but.

I consider "Vista" to be another M.S. product like the "M" offering, although I doubt if it could be as unstable, I set a new world record for reinstalling "M", got it down to a reload every three weeks. after the third time, I went back to 98 SE, If it had easyier USB & networking I would have stayed.

I've used all M.S. from Windows 3.1 to present, really back to DOS 4.1, XP Pro is my choice, It will handle all the software and hardware I can throw at it. ( I run 56 programs each on two machines, and actually use them).

Up until the last 6 months I haven't allow updates. So if M.S. stops support, I could care less, all I need is SP1.

They can keep making new versions but unless I find a major reason to upgrade, and I haven't yet. (Maybe if the future version was need for teleportation software, I would consider it.") As long as the hardware was cheap enough.

I feel sorry for the people that bought computers that's hardware is only able to run Windows Vista, buyer beware. Proven Tech is the best. I just finished rebuilding MoneyPit 2, this week, the only part I reused is the Super Tower Case, I love it. I't Rocks! Jim

[Guest]

Hi,

I bought a laptop pc with Vista pre-installed on it, can I take out the Vista somehow and install XP? I hate Vista but my laptop only came with 1 CD that has everything in it like the operating system, programs, etc!!!???

Thanks in advance,

SleepyNoMore

[Goofproof]

Hi,

I bought a laptop pc with Vista pre-installed on it, can I take out the Vista somehow and install XP? I hate Vista but my laptop only came with 1 CD that has everything in it like the operating system, programs, etc!!!???

Thanks in advance,

SleepyNoMore

It sounds like all you have is a reinstall (Ghosted Ect) cd, that's the first of the level of rip-off buying computer hardware. You are paying for the products installed on you new computer, you should get a legal install disk full version, for every program on it, you don't. I started with a Gateway tower, it came with the disks, but nowdays, that's not what you get. I want the products in my hands, so I can reinstall just the ones I want, and need, not all the junk, try me programs.

It depends on the hardware (Your laptop-computer) if you can go back to XP, some are selling that option, some have hardware that is setup to work with "Vista only". You might contact the manufactor, and ask them if yours is XP able. Even if it is, you will have to get the XP software. If I had vista on it, now I would use it until it caused trouble, for what you want it might be ok. It would be good to know if XP would work on it, just in case. Jim

[dsm]

Hi,

I bought a laptop pc with Vista pre-installed on it, can I take out the Vista somehow and install XP? I hate Vista but my laptop only came with 1 CD that has everything in it like the operating system, programs, etc!!!???

Thanks in advance,

SleepyNoMore

Most machines can be backlevelled & many vendors selling vista machines have the instuctions on how to do so at their websites.

But we bought one special Acer machine that had SATA2 disks & neither we nor Acer could get the Intel SATA2 driver to work with XP so we reluctantly put 2 of these PCs into our network after a nightmarish effort to resolve the admin of them.

The lan/wan - intel manager was pretty pissed off that anyone had bought a vist pc without his knowing but the infrastructure manager had bought these for a special project I was developing & when no one incl Acer could back level them I went ahead & used them.

Vist may well work for individuals but it is the corporate world that bets its business that really counts & we are voting to stay with XP & MS have no choice. Our CIO will not be told he has to replace most of his fleet of PCs just to meet MS sales targets - no way!!!.

DSM

[Guest]

Thank Jim,

You are right, my first gateway desktop pc came with several cd's, now the gateway destop I have came with only one cd, same with my gateway lap-top but, I don't like it with that because the vista is in the one cd that does it all so it would put totally different drivers in there if I tried installing XP and might not be compatable with my motherboard etc.!!

I will call gateway monday and see what they say...
Thanks for all the info,

Have a great day,

SleepyNoMore