Need a Lab Ratter to work on Nasal Aire II Vents

Babs Who Can't Login · Post by **Babs Who Can't Login** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:41 pm

Hey, this just occurred to me. Maybe someone out there can think of a way to attach something to the NAII cannula to deflect the vent air straight up?

I thought of Flying Norseman, and his new FIANCEE (see, I worked it into the conversation) and his desire not to blow air all over her at night. I don't have this problem, and don't know if the other NAII users out there have a problem with venting on their bed partners (do speak up!!!).

Maybe something could be attached to the side tubes at the hard plastic connection point, brought across the vents, and re-connected at the other side. I'm envisioning a 90 degree angle bent thing like a metal roof gutter. But it would have to be plastic.

Anyone know of a small piece of 90 degree corner plastic that might be rigged? Like that stuff they use to cover wallpapered corners? That would be too big... A curve might work, too. Like 1/3 of a round tube.....

Anyone getting any ideas?

Cheers,
Babs

6PtStar · Post by **6PtStar** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:32 pm

OK Babette but if I give you the fix for it you are going to have to go out and get another good looking BF so you can put it to use.

I looked at the posibility of using a shield or curved tubes but the canulla is to soft and nothing I tried would stick to it. Anything you stick to the hard connectors seriously restrcted the bend and shape of the canulla.

I came up with 2 fixes that work I think. One was to take a very thin piece of cloth and attach a small piece of one wrap to each end. Make it a bit baggy. Attach the one wrap to each connector and the cloth goes across the vents enough to defuse the air flow without restricting it. It does tickle my nose every once in a while and sometimes increases the vent noise.

Oh yes, the other fix. Tell the wife to go sleep somewhere else! At my age I have desided that stuff is not near as important as I thought it was when I was 16.

Jerry

Panhandler · Post by **Panhandler** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:33 pm

They make little tubing connectors for fish tank hoses and for the vacuum hoses in automobile engines that might be small enough to fit into the vent tubes. Some of those are right-angle connectors. You could even add tubing, but it would decrease the effectiveness of the vent and drive the manufacturer nuts!

Babette · Post by **Babette** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:36 pm

Thanks Jerry! Me, I refuse to share my big ol' queen bed with anything but my CPAP right now. But FN wants to keep the FIANCEE, so...

Hmmmm.... I wonder if you could stick those fish tank right-angle things onto the outside of the vents? Like just shove them on, like you shove the cannula onto the connectors? Hmmm... Might have to look into something like that for future reference.

Thanks much!
B.

6PtStar · Post by **6PtStar** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:41 pm

I tried the little elbows but they would not stay pointed in any particular direction and i could not find anything to tie them to so they would stay.

Jerry

Babette · Post by **Babette** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:05 pm

Ohhhhh.... So they wouldn't just friction fit to the vents, huh? Shucky darn... Thanks for telling me!
B.

momadams · Post by **momadams** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:47 pm

My husband, Dr. Physics, and I had a similar discussion the other day.
His conclusion was that attaching anything to the exhaust ports would change the way/amount the CO2 is exhausted and/or the way the air pressure is delivered. It's all a carefully tested balance.
With proper engineering and testing it could be done, but I sure wouldn't mess with it myself.
Shari

sleepycarol · Post by **sleepycarol** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:16 am

I suggest Babs that you go to work for the mask manufacturers and get these people straightened out about what we want!!!!

You could getter done!!!

Think of all the mods you could try out getting the perfect NAII.

6PtStar · Post by **6PtStar** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:11 am

Shari, I thought of that also and talked to my daughter who is an aerospace engineer. She seemed to think that any thing I did to make the vents longer would effect the amout of CO2 that it was able to expell (something about flow analysas). That is why I came up with the little almost cheese cloth bag to hang in front. Kinda like holding your hand in front of the vents but not close enough to effect the flow. One thing I am going to try when I get a canulla that I am ready to throw out is to plug the vents and use a hot wire to put new holes at a different angle. Won't have the little puckers on the holes and I have not asked if this will effect the output. Just a thought.

Jerry

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:12 am

Hey Jerry, once you've worn out one, definitely give that a shot!!! And let us know your results!!!!

Cheers,
B.

BrnEyez · Post by **BrnEyez** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:30 am

I am absolutely in love with the Nasal Aire II. It solved all my leak issues, mask pressure points, and comfort issues, etc. etc. etc. It is the best. To solve our "jet stream" issues I just put up a pillow barricade. Our bed is big enough that a pillow between us is not an issue.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:51 am

Great suggestion BrnEyez! Does the noise of the air hitting the pillow bother you at all?

Thanks!
Barbara

BrnEyez · Post by **BrnEyez** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:19 am

It does not seem too....I sleep through it I supppose. When the exhalation vents near the pillow it does change the sound, but not disturbingly so....easy to deal with....adjust the pillow or turn over.

On second thought.......I have been exposed to my snorning husbands "exhaust fumes" for years. I say "Take Down The Barricade!".

Pay back is a #$%^ (so they say).

Seriously, while I was getting use to CPAP usage I slept in a different room. There was alot of ups and downs, figeting, fussing, fuming and fighting; not with my husabnd, but with the CPAP interfaces. Since finding the Nasal Aire II it all has become extremely tolerable and I have moved back into the bedroom. My husband has not been bothered by any machine noise or interface vent air blowing on him. The pillow is my courteous implementation for his comfort.

AdmiralCougar · Post by **AdmiralCougar** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:27 pm

Babs I'd love a fix for that too, but I could care less about it blowing on my hubby, I sleep with my arm up and it blows on my arm. I hate being woke up because the blanket got pulled off my arm and the exhaust is blowing on my arm.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:31 pm

Hey Christy! Good to hear from you! Hope things are going well!

I have that arm issue, too. Especially now when it's so cold!!!

My biggest fidgeting right now is getting burrowed down sufficiently in my covers to make me happy, and still finding a way to vent without it either being blocked by the covers, or blowing on a body part that finds it cold. I usually figure it out.

Cheers,
Babs

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