WEIGHT AND OSA
- neversleeps
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WEIGHT AND OSA
I know not everyone with OSA is fat. However based on the thread where we listed our ailments in addition to OSA, it appears that most of us are indeed overweight.
I'm trying to figure out why I don't lose weight. I know HOW to lose weight; the whole world knows how--reduced calorie intake, increased exercise. Its not rocket science, it is ridiculously simple. Yet, even though I consider myself to be of at least average intelligence, I still usually give up and do not lose weight despite all the health problems it causes. I mean, what the heck is wrong with me? Here I am, facing a future where I'll be wearing what is essentially scuba gear to bed while hooked up to a glorified leaf blower for the rest of my life, and if I lost weight it might be completely unnecessary.
I feel so dumb. Its hard to believe that anyone could find adapting to CPAP therapy easier than losing weight, but obviously it is. (For me, anyway.)
I realize there are a whole host of reasons we become overweight. But the bottom line is, we alone control our bodies and choose what/how much we consume. So how is it that the truly life-altering prospect of nightly CPAP therapy for the rest of our lives is an easier choice?
I'm almost feeling... I don't know... embarrassed that I am so weak. I'm angry at myself. I want to lose weight. There are OSA sufferers who are not overweight, but for those of us who are, what is our excuse??? If someone came to me and said, "If you lose x number of pounds, you will no longer have to wear the mask at night." You'd think I'd choose to lose the weight, wouldn't you? And yet, here I am. Still fat.
Maybe we should have a weightloss board. If it worked, the number of people on that board would increase and the number on this board would be reduced by at least half (statistically), and probably more (based on the informal poll). Its food for thought. (No pun intended.)
I'm trying to figure out why I don't lose weight. I know HOW to lose weight; the whole world knows how--reduced calorie intake, increased exercise. Its not rocket science, it is ridiculously simple. Yet, even though I consider myself to be of at least average intelligence, I still usually give up and do not lose weight despite all the health problems it causes. I mean, what the heck is wrong with me? Here I am, facing a future where I'll be wearing what is essentially scuba gear to bed while hooked up to a glorified leaf blower for the rest of my life, and if I lost weight it might be completely unnecessary.
I feel so dumb. Its hard to believe that anyone could find adapting to CPAP therapy easier than losing weight, but obviously it is. (For me, anyway.)
I realize there are a whole host of reasons we become overweight. But the bottom line is, we alone control our bodies and choose what/how much we consume. So how is it that the truly life-altering prospect of nightly CPAP therapy for the rest of our lives is an easier choice?
I'm almost feeling... I don't know... embarrassed that I am so weak. I'm angry at myself. I want to lose weight. There are OSA sufferers who are not overweight, but for those of us who are, what is our excuse??? If someone came to me and said, "If you lose x number of pounds, you will no longer have to wear the mask at night." You'd think I'd choose to lose the weight, wouldn't you? And yet, here I am. Still fat.
Maybe we should have a weightloss board. If it worked, the number of people on that board would increase and the number on this board would be reduced by at least half (statistically), and probably more (based on the informal poll). Its food for thought. (No pun intended.)
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You hit it on the head
Neversleeps,
Finally someone put in writing what I have felt since being diagnosed with High Blood Pressure three years ago. A variety of health issues related to weight affect me, yet, despite a past history of losing weight (lost 35 pounds once and 18 pounds just a few years ago), I choose not to do it ago, although I try every now and then. I am not able to lose the weight despite the obvious health issues it causes including OSA. It is nice to know that others have felt the same way (failure, idiot for not being able to do something so simple, etc.). Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer.
Howard
Finally someone put in writing what I have felt since being diagnosed with High Blood Pressure three years ago. A variety of health issues related to weight affect me, yet, despite a past history of losing weight (lost 35 pounds once and 18 pounds just a few years ago), I choose not to do it ago, although I try every now and then. I am not able to lose the weight despite the obvious health issues it causes including OSA. It is nice to know that others have felt the same way (failure, idiot for not being able to do something so simple, etc.). Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer.
Howard
Hoping someday my kids will call me "Howard the Rested" instead of "Howard the Grumpy"
feeling full
what a good thread....I also have a weight component to this whole thing. My trouble is not losing the weight, it is that I always gain it back with more. It is like a sadistic game to me. I don't why I do it. My sleep doctor told me that OSA has a proven effect of disabling your satiety (?sp.) response. In other words you do not get the effect of being full no matter how much you eat. Has anyone else been told this or have a link to further research information available? I asked the MD if I should consider gastric by-pass surgery and he said NO. He said because I have been able to lose weight before my problem is not in the losing but in the mental health neccessary to keep it off. He suggested therapy for LIFE. I plan on at least trying this approach, it sure beats surgery.
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Good thread. I am also overweight, that is where my problems came in. Actually, I am considered morbidly obese. At 26 yrs of age I now am suffering from asthma, depression, hyprthyroidism, high blood pressure, acid reflux & sleep apnea. I also have knee, leg and back trouble and can not walk but very short distances.
I have tried many different ways to lose weight and have failed. Actually, I've been overweight since early childhood and have never lost weight, just gained. I've managed a few pounds here and there, but nothing to make a difference. Now I am in waiting, as I have been a while, for a gastric by-pass operation. My Doctor is very certain that I need and should get this surgery. My age has a lot to do with it. Also the fact I have no heart problems... yet. She wants me to be able to have the surgery while I am young and BEFORE I develope more problems. I've spent over 2 yrs researching and studying about this surgery.
Just yesterday was my start on my CPAP machine, I am at the lowest air-flow level right now, so I am glad of that. It may have to be increased though. My sleep studies were not the best as I didn't sleep much at all. The first study I slept 2 1/2 hrs and stopped breathing 337 times. The longest pause in breathing that night was 20 seconds. I have had some rough and VERY scary episodes with my sleep apnea. The second study to set my CPAP air-flow level I still slept only about 2 1/2 hrs overall.
I am hoping I will solve most if not all of my health problems after I have my by-pass and lose some weight. I am determined to improve my life and live healthier. I am so glad to read about others and their experiences here. Thanks to everyone.
I have tried many different ways to lose weight and have failed. Actually, I've been overweight since early childhood and have never lost weight, just gained. I've managed a few pounds here and there, but nothing to make a difference. Now I am in waiting, as I have been a while, for a gastric by-pass operation. My Doctor is very certain that I need and should get this surgery. My age has a lot to do with it. Also the fact I have no heart problems... yet. She wants me to be able to have the surgery while I am young and BEFORE I develope more problems. I've spent over 2 yrs researching and studying about this surgery.
Just yesterday was my start on my CPAP machine, I am at the lowest air-flow level right now, so I am glad of that. It may have to be increased though. My sleep studies were not the best as I didn't sleep much at all. The first study I slept 2 1/2 hrs and stopped breathing 337 times. The longest pause in breathing that night was 20 seconds. I have had some rough and VERY scary episodes with my sleep apnea. The second study to set my CPAP air-flow level I still slept only about 2 1/2 hrs overall.
I am hoping I will solve most if not all of my health problems after I have my by-pass and lose some weight. I am determined to improve my life and live healthier. I am so glad to read about others and their experiences here. Thanks to everyone.
~FairSpirit~
I was really hoping to hear that cpap therapy would help me lose weight. With more rest I was hoping that I would have more energy and be more enthusiastic about getting exercise. I feel like I do make fairly good food choices I just don't ever seem to be able to lose and keep off any weight. But I work all day and come home to an empty house and sit at my computer after a simple supper and generally fall asleep off and on all evening. Nothing holds my attention for long (other than the TV series LOST, I just love it!) and I drift off to sleep, get uncomfortable and eventually go to bed. I have very little social life other than "girls night out" once a month since my divorce and my sons both have left home. It isn't that I don't have invitations I just don't feel like going out with my couples friends as a third wheel and am not at all ready to try dating yet. I can't say that I am depressed I have a great support system. I am newly diagnosed with OSA and will have the sleep study to set the machine I will be using next Tuesday. I want so much for this to change my life. Is my hope misplaced?
Everything that I have ever done is a pale imitation of what I had in mind...
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The reason it is so difficult is really simple, it requires a complete change in lifestyle, forever. Not for a few weeks, or a few months, but for the rest of your life. It doesn't require a diet, or an exercise program, it's that complete lifestyle change that is needed. Intellectually, I can understand this fact too, but implementation is something I struggle with as well. With very few exceptions, most overweight people, myself included, are in that situation by our own doing. ..and many people will throw every excuse in the book out as to why they're overweight and can't lose it, but it simply comes down to most of us just don't have the will power, stamina, or desire to implement the requisite changes in our lifestyle needed to lose weight for good.
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Here is why so many Sleep Apnea/OSA sufferers are overweight and cannot keep weight off no matter what diet they go on.
1. OSA causes cortisol levels to rise because you are not getting restorative sleep
2. OSA causes fatigue and who the heck feels like exercising, walking, or doing anything that involves energy when you are always tired?
3. Because we are always so tired we tend to eat more carb and sugar impregnated food to try and give ourselves energy. This is what our body craves.
3. The longer you deal with OSA the more fatigued you get and the more 1 and 2 happen.
CPAP therapy, will, if all things are going well, and there are no hidden factors causing lack of deep, restorative sleep, cause your cortisol levels to go down and will give you more energy so you FEEL like doing something like cleaning out the closet or unpacking those boxes sitting in your spare bedroom or cleaning out the garage. Exercise doesn't have to be going to the gym and working out.
You sweet and carb cravings will also decline because your body doesn't need that stuff to feel energy anymore. In fact your appetite will probably be smaller too. Right now I eat a good breakfast, lots of protein and calcium products and a relatively good-sized lunch. For supper I have a container of yogurt and maybe some cheese or nuts or fat free/sugar free pudding made with skim milk. That's all I need and sometimes I don't even feel hungry for that.
The last few days I've had heaps more energy than the last 6 months. Of course the diminished pain in my back I'm sure has helped. For months I've been in too much pain to do more than work, come home and go to bed with a muscle relaxant!
1. OSA causes cortisol levels to rise because you are not getting restorative sleep
2. OSA causes fatigue and who the heck feels like exercising, walking, or doing anything that involves energy when you are always tired?
3. Because we are always so tired we tend to eat more carb and sugar impregnated food to try and give ourselves energy. This is what our body craves.
3. The longer you deal with OSA the more fatigued you get and the more 1 and 2 happen.
CPAP therapy, will, if all things are going well, and there are no hidden factors causing lack of deep, restorative sleep, cause your cortisol levels to go down and will give you more energy so you FEEL like doing something like cleaning out the closet or unpacking those boxes sitting in your spare bedroom or cleaning out the garage. Exercise doesn't have to be going to the gym and working out.
You sweet and carb cravings will also decline because your body doesn't need that stuff to feel energy anymore. In fact your appetite will probably be smaller too. Right now I eat a good breakfast, lots of protein and calcium products and a relatively good-sized lunch. For supper I have a container of yogurt and maybe some cheese or nuts or fat free/sugar free pudding made with skim milk. That's all I need and sometimes I don't even feel hungry for that.
The last few days I've had heaps more energy than the last 6 months. Of course the diminished pain in my back I'm sure has helped. For months I've been in too much pain to do more than work, come home and go to bed with a muscle relaxant!
This is an awesome thread - thank you Neversleeps. I am considered morbidly obese and was 2 months into the process of working with a surgeon and insurance for Weight Loss Surgery, when my insurance announced that, when renewals come due, no more WLS. My employers renewal date was June 1. So not being through all the hoops they make you jump through before actually scheduling surgery, they pulled the rug out. I was devastated.
The silver lining was that, in the initial questionnaire the surgeon provided, it listed about 15 symptoms of OSA - I checked yes to all of them and realized for the first time what was going on.
So, here I am on this board, using CPAP and thanking God for it every day.
I am hoping so much that this therapy will help with energy so I get moving more - BUT, I'm in the same boat as FairSpirit, with arthritis of knees, hips, back, and neck; I've had one total knee replacement, need another and cannot walk more than about 50 feet. I used to swim - but can no longer make it from parking lot to rec center let alone back to the pool area.
I've been trying South Beach with some success, but it seems like I'm hell bent on sabotaging myself and do NOT understand why!
Years ago, I lost 85 lbs with Phen Fen and cannot help still believing that it is a chemical imbalance of some sort. Phen Fen made me normal for the first time in my life. I ate normal amounts and did not obsess over food.
I don't' know what the answer is, but how I wish we did.
Why am I satisfied to be crippled, in chronic pain, depressed and sickly??? Its like I disconnect from all that though, when I want to eat.
I'm holding out one little last hope that CPAP therapy will help my mental state, allowing me to follow South Beach lifestyle and be successful.
Thanks to everyone here who shares so openly - you can't know how much it means to know there are others feeling the same thing!
The silver lining was that, in the initial questionnaire the surgeon provided, it listed about 15 symptoms of OSA - I checked yes to all of them and realized for the first time what was going on.
So, here I am on this board, using CPAP and thanking God for it every day.
I am hoping so much that this therapy will help with energy so I get moving more - BUT, I'm in the same boat as FairSpirit, with arthritis of knees, hips, back, and neck; I've had one total knee replacement, need another and cannot walk more than about 50 feet. I used to swim - but can no longer make it from parking lot to rec center let alone back to the pool area.
I've been trying South Beach with some success, but it seems like I'm hell bent on sabotaging myself and do NOT understand why!
Years ago, I lost 85 lbs with Phen Fen and cannot help still believing that it is a chemical imbalance of some sort. Phen Fen made me normal for the first time in my life. I ate normal amounts and did not obsess over food.
I don't' know what the answer is, but how I wish we did.
Why am I satisfied to be crippled, in chronic pain, depressed and sickly??? Its like I disconnect from all that though, when I want to eat.
I'm holding out one little last hope that CPAP therapy will help my mental state, allowing me to follow South Beach lifestyle and be successful.
Thanks to everyone here who shares so openly - you can't know how much it means to know there are others feeling the same thing!
I have been on South Beach since about Jan of 2004. Lost 20 pounds and then never lost another. I still follow the basic outline, high protein, lots of dairy products, low carbs and try to avoid sugar and fat as much as possible.
Grylox, if you are not already getting treatment for your arthritis, do so. I have about all you have. I'm currently seeing a Spine specialist who is wonderful and believes in non-surgical treatments such as nerve blocks, nerve laser burning, cortisone injections. This is all a certain chain of treatments aimed at reducing inflamation, testing nerves and then taking care of each nerve. I am due for a partial knee replacement this fall if i can put it off that long. I simply don't have time for the 6 weeks of recovery until then. My SS has recently put me on the Duragesic pain patches. At first I saw no difference and mentioned it to him when I went in for my last injection procedure, and he doubled the dose and I don't know right now if my pain reduction is from the injection or the upped dosage but my siatica, knee pain, neck pain, etc. are greatly reduced. he said I could go up to 4 patches (25 mg) every 3 days with no problem if I needed it.
Chronic pain can also play a big part in getting a good night's sleep and getting to deep sleep, so it is necessary you take care of that too.
Grylox, if you are not already getting treatment for your arthritis, do so. I have about all you have. I'm currently seeing a Spine specialist who is wonderful and believes in non-surgical treatments such as nerve blocks, nerve laser burning, cortisone injections. This is all a certain chain of treatments aimed at reducing inflamation, testing nerves and then taking care of each nerve. I am due for a partial knee replacement this fall if i can put it off that long. I simply don't have time for the 6 weeks of recovery until then. My SS has recently put me on the Duragesic pain patches. At first I saw no difference and mentioned it to him when I went in for my last injection procedure, and he doubled the dose and I don't know right now if my pain reduction is from the injection or the upped dosage but my siatica, knee pain, neck pain, etc. are greatly reduced. he said I could go up to 4 patches (25 mg) every 3 days with no problem if I needed it.
Chronic pain can also play a big part in getting a good night's sleep and getting to deep sleep, so it is necessary you take care of that too.
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Well said. Truer words were never written. Here I am, given a proven remedy to many life-threatening health issues:Tired-in-Tenn wrote:.... With very few exceptions, most overweight people, myself included, are in that situation by our own doing. ..and many people will throw every excuse in the book out as to why they're overweight and can't lose it, but it simply comes down to most of us just don't have the will power, stamina, or desire to implement the requisite changes in our lifestyle needed to lose weight for good.
If you lose weight, you probably won't need CPAP anymore.
If you lose weight, you probably won't need high blood pressure medication.
If you lose weight, you probably won't need knee and hip replacement surgery.
If you lose weight, you may not have that heart attack next year.
If you lose weight, you may not need insulin anymore.
If you lose weight, you may not have that permanently debilitating stroke that will leave you partially paralyzed, unable to speak and confined to a wheelchair for the rest of your life.
And what do I do? Nothing. I am, in essence, choosing to have a stroke.
Man, I've got to do something about this! This is pathetic. I've got to change!!!! I've just got to! I've never written this stuff down before and its disturbing. Suddenly I have absolutely no sympathy for myself whatsoever. I have the power to undo so much damage! I have the power to prevent so much future damage! I've got to do something about this! I can't just stay the way I am and continue to feel so lousy about myself!
I know this will sound silly, but I am now going to get up, put on something that isn't too embarrassing, go outside and walk around the block.
TTYL
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Neversleeps,,,,,,,,thank you. You expressed exactly what I have been saying to myself for years. I have been living just one day at a time for about 5 years now. I never even think about what I'm going to be doing on the weekends because I'm not so sure that I will still be around. I have all sorts of health problems also. I drag myself out of bed in the morning, shower, sit & watch tv until it's time to go to a part time job at 1:30,,struggle to make it through the day so that I can come back home and eat and sleep. That's all I think about...eating and sleeping!!!!
I have been on cpap for about 3 weeks & I am actually feeling a little bit better. I actually feel rested when I wake up. I have a little more energy so I have been doing more housework. I have finally been able to read novels again. For the longest time I couldn't because I would fall asleep before I would turn the first page.
I, too, am morbidly obese. Why can't I eat properly? I could probably write a book on nutrition because I know what's good for you & what's not. I just chose to fill a void in my life with food. I keep wishing for that magic pill. Take one at night with a full glass of water and *voila* you're thin in the morning.
I have been on cpap for about 3 weeks & I am actually feeling a little bit better. I actually feel rested when I wake up. I have a little more energy so I have been doing more housework. I have finally been able to read novels again. For the longest time I couldn't because I would fall asleep before I would turn the first page.
I, too, am morbidly obese. Why can't I eat properly? I could probably write a book on nutrition because I know what's good for you & what's not. I just chose to fill a void in my life with food. I keep wishing for that magic pill. Take one at night with a full glass of water and *voila* you're thin in the morning.
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Hi all,
I am very new to this site and will be getting my CPap on 7th July.
For those of us that are a little chubby it is hard to loose weight.
At easter i weighed myself at my mother in laws house and got a nasty shock when the scales told me I was 268lb (19st 2lb). I decided to do something about it as I have a wife and more importantly 3 children who I want to grow old with. I would never dream of going to a weight watchers meeting however my wife bought me the mens version of weight watchers call MP5 and I have been on it since. The following link will take you to the web site:
http://www.weightwatchers.com/mp5/uk/index.asp
14 weeks down the line I now weigh 236lb (16st 12lb) so have lost 32lb or 2st 4lb. Without going into it too much as you can all google, I now eat three meals a day, drink about 6 ltrs of water and if you stick to the diet you still get treats like beer (I have 2 or 3 a week) and chocolate if that is your thing. The best thing about this diet is you do it from home, you start off by eating more, at least it feels like it, and most importantly it does work.
I am going on hols in September and should reach my target of 15st by then. I have also been told by the nurse at my sleep clinic that the CPap will help with weight loss due to the change of oxygen in the metabolism.
Hope this helps you all.
I am very new to this site and will be getting my CPap on 7th July.
For those of us that are a little chubby it is hard to loose weight.
At easter i weighed myself at my mother in laws house and got a nasty shock when the scales told me I was 268lb (19st 2lb). I decided to do something about it as I have a wife and more importantly 3 children who I want to grow old with. I would never dream of going to a weight watchers meeting however my wife bought me the mens version of weight watchers call MP5 and I have been on it since. The following link will take you to the web site:
http://www.weightwatchers.com/mp5/uk/index.asp
14 weeks down the line I now weigh 236lb (16st 12lb) so have lost 32lb or 2st 4lb. Without going into it too much as you can all google, I now eat three meals a day, drink about 6 ltrs of water and if you stick to the diet you still get treats like beer (I have 2 or 3 a week) and chocolate if that is your thing. The best thing about this diet is you do it from home, you start off by eating more, at least it feels like it, and most importantly it does work.
I am going on hols in September and should reach my target of 15st by then. I have also been told by the nurse at my sleep clinic that the CPap will help with weight loss due to the change of oxygen in the metabolism.
Hope this helps you all.
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Hi everyone!
I have ben overweight since forever! <LOL> I was a very small baby and my grandmother saw to it that I got fed!! (I might add, my Danish grandmother - who baked bread one day a week, baked cakes and other desserts nearly every other day, etc., etc.)
A few years ago I decided to try the Carbohydrate Addicts Lifespan Eating plan (the basis for the Atkins Diet) - and it really worked... well, sort of. I lost about 30#, but gained a whole mess of digestive and elimination problems, so I had to add some more carbs to the diet. It brought my blood sugars down so low that I had to stop taking my Rx for Type II Diabetes! The Dr. was thrilled.... and then I stopped losing. Didn't gain, just stopped losing.
A friend (well several friends) started telling me stuff about NutriSweet (Aspartame) and how bad it was for you, so bit by bit I started eliminating it from my diet. Do you have any idea how much stuff it is/was in??!! Well the following summer I went shopping for some clothes and was again discouraged that nothing was fitting properly. Then I took another look. Everything was TOO BIG!! I had dropped TWO dress sizes over the course of about 6 to 8 months. The only change I had made was the NutriSweet. I have since learned that this stuff is a derivative or similar compound to formaldehyde and that it acts like formaldehyde on fatty tissue, i.e. - it preserves the fatty tissue and does not allow it to be broken down!
Unfortunately, since a bad bout with bronchitis this spring, I am again taking Rx for Diabetes and trying to balance the diet with the food I have to eat for the Rx to balance the sugars .... Ugh!. So I have stopped losing, for now.
In all, between the fast loss at the beginning of Eating Plan, then the gain, then more loss, I have still been able to keep 30# off of what I was (now down to 234# from 265#.)
Hope to get back to my eating plan SOON!!!
- JB
Edit Note: I have to rely on diet for weight loss. Exercise is not a viable option. i can exercise, but not enough for any weight-loss program.
I have ben overweight since forever! <LOL> I was a very small baby and my grandmother saw to it that I got fed!! (I might add, my Danish grandmother - who baked bread one day a week, baked cakes and other desserts nearly every other day, etc., etc.)
A few years ago I decided to try the Carbohydrate Addicts Lifespan Eating plan (the basis for the Atkins Diet) - and it really worked... well, sort of. I lost about 30#, but gained a whole mess of digestive and elimination problems, so I had to add some more carbs to the diet. It brought my blood sugars down so low that I had to stop taking my Rx for Type II Diabetes! The Dr. was thrilled.... and then I stopped losing. Didn't gain, just stopped losing.
A friend (well several friends) started telling me stuff about NutriSweet (Aspartame) and how bad it was for you, so bit by bit I started eliminating it from my diet. Do you have any idea how much stuff it is/was in??!! Well the following summer I went shopping for some clothes and was again discouraged that nothing was fitting properly. Then I took another look. Everything was TOO BIG!! I had dropped TWO dress sizes over the course of about 6 to 8 months. The only change I had made was the NutriSweet. I have since learned that this stuff is a derivative or similar compound to formaldehyde and that it acts like formaldehyde on fatty tissue, i.e. - it preserves the fatty tissue and does not allow it to be broken down!
Unfortunately, since a bad bout with bronchitis this spring, I am again taking Rx for Diabetes and trying to balance the diet with the food I have to eat for the Rx to balance the sugars .... Ugh!. So I have stopped losing, for now.
In all, between the fast loss at the beginning of Eating Plan, then the gain, then more loss, I have still been able to keep 30# off of what I was (now down to 234# from 265#.)
Hope to get back to my eating plan SOON!!!
- JB
Edit Note: I have to rely on diet for weight loss. Exercise is not a viable option. i can exercise, but not enough for any weight-loss program.
Janelle, I'm sorry to hear you are going through all the issues and pain. Yes, I've been treating for arthritis for 6 years now; went thru all the routes, phys therapy, then corstisone shots, then those gel injections, then narcotic pain relief, then surgery. Lately i've been letting it slide because I went through breast cancer last year (surgery and radiation) and was just getting sick of schlepping to drs all the time. I've been thinking of trying acupuncture for my knees and neck though. I've tried the duragesic patch twice now, both times, the second day I got very ill - so i dont like it at all.
One note - be sure to talk to your doc or get a 2nd opinion on the partial knee repl. - my doc talked me out of that (and into a total) because a partial is going to wear out faster - he said if you're gonna go thru surgery, why not do the fix so it lasts 20 years instead of just a few years). Just a thought for you.
JB: question for you too! Do you know if the ingredients in Splenda are the same as Equal? I eat tons of splenda!
One note - be sure to talk to your doc or get a 2nd opinion on the partial knee repl. - my doc talked me out of that (and into a total) because a partial is going to wear out faster - he said if you're gonna go thru surgery, why not do the fix so it lasts 20 years instead of just a few years). Just a thought for you.
JB: question for you too! Do you know if the ingredients in Splenda are the same as Equal? I eat tons of splenda!