systematic sleep apnea

[odawa]

any idea what systematic sleep apnea is? My ins. requires it for a surgery.

[JeffH]

any idea what systematic sleep apnea is? My ins. requires it for a surgery.

No surgery cures sleep apnea that I know of. Some screw up your head, but you will still need the hose when they are done.

[justplainbill]

This is just a guess but I believe they may be talking about "Symptomatic" sleep apnea (apnea that is accompanied by clear cut symptoms that either are directly linked to sleep apnea (such as excessive daytime sleepiness) or physical symptoms (such as high blood pressure) that could worsen if apnea is not treated.

You might want to talk with the insurance company just so you are sure about this.

Best wishes,
Bill

[Guest]

Thank you Bill. I got it from the Ins. company. The gal I was talking too from the Ins. had no idea what it was either. She is sending me paperwork. Hopefully the mystery will be solved.
Would Obstructive Sleep Apnea qualify? I have alot of symptoms. I'm tired all of the time. I had high blood pressure before I was diagnosed. I don't know if I can tag them to the sleep apnea.
I googled it and came up with nothing.

[odawa]

That was me. thought I signed in, but I didn't

[oceanpearl]

any idea what systematic sleep apnea is? My ins. requires it for a surgery.

What kind of surgery?

[krousseau]

Systematic or systemic?
If it's systematic I have no idea.
If it is systemic-it may be their way to differentiate obstructive from central sleep apnea-though still a term I haven't heard of before and rather ambiguous.
Obstructive sleep apnea involves the structural anatomy of the upper airway and there are surgical procedures that may or may not help. The success rate of the surgery is pretty low even when done by top surgeons-in the hands of a run of the mill doc doing few of these surgeries it is dismal.
If you are considering nasal or oropharyngeal surgery-be very clear why you are doing it and what the outcome is likely to be. It may work well for nasal obstruction/sinus problems and still leave you with sleep apnea. Make sure the doc is well trained has done many surgeries and does at least 4-5/week. Find out the doc's complication rate and if there are any disciplinary actions against him/her. If it is a teaching hospital-who really does the surgery? Those new surgeons have to learn on someone!

[Julie]

Symptomatic... 99% sure - it's a common way of expressing diagnoses and is used all the time. Systematic makes no sense at all here.

[odawa]

I'm trying to qualify for lapband surgery and sleep apnea is one of the co-morbidalities. I do have others. Sucks to be sick. When I talked to the ins. She specified the kind of sleep apnea.

[ozij]

You've beem through a PSG, your sleep apnea has been diagnosed, and qualified you for a cpap. Ask the ins. clerk for the info in writing (maybe they have qualification info on thier site?) and ask if apnea diagnosed on a PSG is enough. Some of your comorbidities may be apnea related.

O.

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[odawa]

Good then I should qualify. I also have diabetes. high blood pressure and I'm tired all of the time.
I have trouble exercising because I'm so tired. My diabetes Dr told me to power through it. I told her how can I power through a disease that wont let me sleep. funny if someone told me to powerr through Diabetes, she'd be outraged. She did apologize for the comment I was just surprised that she made it in the 1st place

[sleepycarol]

Please keep us posted on this if you don't mind.

I am overweight and need to lose some in order to feel better -- yet because of some health issues I have I am finding if very difficult to do.

I know our insurance won't pay for the lapband surgery for weight loss but I don't know if they would pay for it in order to help my other health issues. I have severe sleep apnea, high blood pressure, asthma that is made worse by the extra weight, have a family history of diabetes and although I am not at that point yet my blood sugar is higher than the doctor would like, back problems, fatigue, etc.

I was hoping that the CPAP would take care of all of the fatigue but it hasn't so far (been on it since 08/30/07).

I am thinking about trying a dietician, but have been toying around with the idea of the lapband surgery.

[annie123]

I have lost 90 lbs in the past 10 months. I have switched from a sraight C-PAP to an auto because the original pressure was too high. (I refused another sleep study, and they agreed, under presure, to an auto to find the right one.) My pressure has gone down, but the apnea is still there.
I don't want to discourage you. I am just trying to caution that weight loss may not be the "cure" for you. In fact I think the apnea was the reason I ended up so heavy in the first place.
Annie

[Moby]

[quote="odawa"]Good then I should qualify. I also have diabetes. high blood pressure and I'm tired all of the time.
I have trouble exercising because I'm so tired. My diabetes Dr told me to power through it. I told her how can I power through a disease that wont let me sleep. funny if someone told me to powerr through Diabetes, she'd be outraged. She did apologize for the comment I was just surprised that she made it in the 1st place

[sleepycarol]

For myself I know that losing weight is not going to fix my sleep apnea. I feel that part of my trouble is that I have had it for a long time and the reason I have some of the health issues I have.

Losing weight though should help my blood pressure, blood sugars, shortness of breath, lack of energy, etc.

I was just talking to my brother and doctor told him this week to lose at least 40 pounds. He was talking to me about it and I said easier said than done.

My mother was overweight as everyone on her side of the family was. I do believe genetics plays a factor in it as I have four brothers and a sister that tend to be on the heavy side -- my sister loses weight with drugs and that is not exactly a smart or legal way to lose it. My brothers and myself struggle with it.