Leak rate for snapp mask.

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Leak rate for snapp mask.

Post by Shutchis1951 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:26 pm

Does anyone know the leak rate for the snapp? I have done a search for it but can't find one. I am using it as my back up mask since the clips won't stay on my Liberty mask and am waiting on the replacement one. I am at pressure 9 and my leak rate this morning was .54 AHI was 5.6 AI was .9 and HI was 4.2. Yesterday leak was .62 AHI was 7.o AI was 1.4 HI was 5.6. Don't know if I am to high or what. Thamks for any help.
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Post by ibthebest » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:48 pm

At 9, the leak rate is about 40. Their documentation on this point is terrible with one line at .50 and that is it for the vertical axis. At 9, it would appear to be about a fifth of the way down between the .50 reference and the horizontal axis.

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snapp report request

Post by Ms Piggy » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:48 pm

I have a snapp that I have never used, but would like to BUT the pillows look rather chewed (it was passed on to me to keep and try). they have possibly been trimmed down, rather badly, as the neck part is rather short and the ends really uneven.
How do yours look?
How do you like it?

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snapp report request

Post by Ms Piggy » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:49 pm

I have a snapp that I have never used, but would like to BUT the pillows look rather chewed (it was passed on to me to keep and try). they have possibly been trimmed down, rather badly, as the neck part is rather short and the ends really uneven.
How do yours look?
How do you like it?

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Post by sleepycarol » Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:50 pm

Apparently this mask comes in three sizes -- small, medium, and large. I purchased a SNAPP mask off from eBay not knowing what size it was. It was a used system and didn't think to write the seller and inquire. I generally take a medium and was hoping that I could use it as I was wanting to try a nasal mask.

The first night I tried the mask it felt as though I was NOT getting enough air through the mask and after about 2 hours I changed back to my F&P 431 full face mask. I figured I just couldn't wear a nasal pillow system.

I then purchased an Optilife Nasal Mask that was new and in that mask I take a medium as well. I have gotten where I reallylike the Optilife but don't like the hard plastic piece that the pillows sit on top of.

I decided to pull out the SNAPP mask and look at it closer. It appears that the pillows are smaller than the Optilife. I thought I would give it another try and used it for a couple of hours Saturday night. I woke up feeling like I was suffocating again. I was not leaking air anywhere and had a good seal -- it just felt like there wasn't much air going through it though. I don't know if this is due to the size of the openings in the pillows and have wondered about trying to enlarge them but fear I will make the mask unusable.

If I could get a medium SNAPP mask to try I would love to give it another go as I think it would be a great mask if one could get it to feel like they weren't suffocating.

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Post by Ms Piggy » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:03 pm

SLEEPYCAROL

Will you check if the end of your pillows on the SNAPP are cut evenly or if they are a bit rough looking, ie unevenly cut please?
Only one set came with the one I have and they are quite short and uneven at along the edge that fits to your nose.
thanks

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Post by ibthebest » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:13 pm

The Snapp interface is not a nasal pillow system. It is a nasal prong system. The nasal prongs fit into the nasal cavities not up to them like nasal pillows.

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Post by sleepycarol » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:26 pm

Ms Piggy Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject:

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SLEEPYCAROL

Will you check if the end of your pillows on the SNAPP are cut evenly or if they are a bit rough looking, ie unevenly cut please?
Only one set came with the one I have and they are quite short and uneven at along the edge that fits to your nose.
thanks
Mine are smooth and not rough looking. I wonder if the holes weren't like mine and maybe too small and they enlarged them. I have thought about trying to enlarge mine but was afraid I would mess it up.
ibthebest Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject:

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The Snapp interface is not a nasal pillow system. It is a nasal prong system. The nasal prongs fit into the nasal cavities not up to them like nasal pillows.

Mikey

I have compared the nasal ends that go into your nares and they look like the Optilife. I know on cpap.com it is listed as a nasal prong system but it doesn't look like the Nasal Aire that looks like a nasal prong system. The SNAPP I have has small accordian style nasal interface that fits into my nares like the Optilife. ibthebest do you have a SNAPP and what does yours look like?

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Post by Shutchis1951 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:03 pm

My snapp is the small and have not had problems with it except I am a mouth breather that is why I have the liberty mask. I do like the snapp.

Mikey where did you find the info on the snapp? I would like to see the graph. Thanks for your help

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Post by ibthebest » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:26 am

Yes, I do have a Snapp and use it quite often (more than any of my other 4 masks). The leakage table was included in the literature. If you want it. PM me and I will try to scan it off.

I know the prongs look like pillows, but if they are the right size, the bulbous (?) part at the bottom should fit into your nose and the interface body will fit flush against the end of your nose. Fitted correctly, it is my least leaky mask as I roll and turn through the night.

As far as the cutting of the ends, I think some people have to do this because they feel the prong goes to far into the nose.

I mouth breathe a little but am trying to train myself not to. My leak rates are higher than the chart and I attribute that to the mouth. My rate is fairly flat so I don't worry about it too much and my other more important numbers are O.K.


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Post by Shutchis1951 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:32 am

Mikey I pm'd you but not sure it worked for the snapp info

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Post by sleepycarol » Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:19 pm

Okay then mine might not be too small then. I will have to try it again. My nose ends up hitting or sitting all the way down and it seems to provide a good seal.

I will have to let you know when I try it again.

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The SNAPP Mask and Fitting

Post by sleepycarol » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:11 pm

I know that the SNAPP mask is not the most popular (I know I know nobody likes it but a handful) mask out there. But I have some questions regarding it.

I purchased a SNAPP mask off from eBay. I thought I was purchasing a nasal pillow system and it was only after another thread that I learned that it is actually a nasal prong system. I dug out my SNAPP tonight and can plainly see the difference between the two styles!! See -- I am learning .

So far I have tried the Optilife and really like it. I used it for a couple of weeks.

Last week I received a Swift II in a trade and I really like it -- probably better than the Optilife actually.

I would love to give the SNAPP the same consideration and think I would like it even better -- but after wearing it a couple of hours and sleeping with it I wake up feeling like I am suffocating. I feel as though someone has a pillow on my face and so end up taking the mask off and going back to one of my other ones. I am unsure which size of SNAPP that I have. The prongs seem to fit inside my nares without a lot of gap between the nares and prongs. The holes are smaller than the mediums on the Optilife and Swift. I am thinking that I possibly have a small SNAPP and need to go larger. Yet, I hate to think of ordering one and it not fitting. I have looked on cpap.com to see if there is a sizing guide on sizing which prong size one needs and can't find any sizing information for that particular mask. The mask sells for around $80.00 and return insurance on cpap.com is almost $60.00. It doesn't make sense to purchase the return insurance due to its high cost.

Anyway of telling which size of SNAPP I have and what size I would need?

Does anyone have a SNAPP laying around they are willing to part with for a reasonable price? I have a couple of extra nasal mask I might be able to trade as well.

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