what reduces aerophagia? (swallowing air)

andyomega · Post by **andyomega** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:11 pm

Hi, im trying to find out one specific thing about aerophagia.

A) does bi-level technology that makes breathing feel more natural reduce this problem?
-or-
B) does a reduction in pressure by using an APAP help to reduce this problem?

I have been all over the internet and there doesnt seem to be any soild information on what technology is best for this.

What do you guys think?
Personaly, I belive Bi-level does the trick based on personal experince.
I am trying to find an answer because I am writing a letter to the director of the sleep clinic.

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laurals · Post by **laurals** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:14 pm

I am having some luck sleeping on my back instead of my side, except for the fact that I can't actually SLEEP on my back - more like dozing.

And if I do sleep on my side, I am finding it better to stretch out my body more, rather than curling up. Again, not as natural, but easier to sleep than on my back, with some reduction in gas (I think).

The c-flex my machine does feels natural enough for inhale exhale except when I need to swallow some sinus drainage or something.

RichCMH · Post by **RichCMH** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:29 pm

For me, it's all about head position. It's when I am on my left side that aerophagia bothers me. Then again, it's not all the time. I am, after six months, trying to figure out exactly how I position my head that allows air through. No problems when I am on my right side or other position.

itchysmom · Post by **itchysmom** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:52 pm

I complained of aerophagia, among other things, to my RT at DME co. She said that aerophagia was more common with nasal pillows and suggested I switch to a full face mask. She gave me a FlexiFit 432. Well, as soon as I turned over to my right side (my preferred sleeping position) my stomach started to cramp up.

I turned onto my back and it stopped. I don't like sleeping on my back at all and I think I did turn over while asleep because of the marks on the right side of my face. I didn't wake up with a stomach ache though.

So, I don't know if it was the FF mask or my position but one of those two things reduced it to an acceptable level for me.

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:01 pm

[quote="itchysmom"]I complained of aerophagia, among other things, to my RT at DME co. She said that aerophagia was more common with nasal pillows and suggested I switch to a full face mask. She gave me a FlexiFit 432. Well, as soon as I turned over to my right side (my preferred sleeping position) my stomach started to cramp up.

I turned onto my back and it stopped. I don't like sleeping on my back at all and I think I did turn over while asleep because of the marks on the right side of my face. I didn't wake up with a stomach ache though.

So, I don't know if it was the FF mask or my position but one of those two things reduced it to an acceptable level for me.

GoodKnight · Post by **GoodKnight** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:02 pm

I was suffering with aerophagia at a pressure of 12 cm H2O.
My doctor(at the Stanford Sleep Clinic) prescribed an APAP set 8 to 12 cm and indeed that solved the problem.
He said I would not get as good therapy as a fixed pressure, but it would be adequate.

track · Post by **track** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:58 pm

After 6 months of treatment I can say nothing works..except sleeping on the back which makes it necessary to increase the pressure to deal with apnea in that position. I have tried elevating the bed with bricks so the head is 6 inches higher than the foot...didn't help. Ramping at a lower pressure helps but eventually when the pressure goes up it's going to get you. I have learned to live with it. I usually wake up once in the middle of the night and when I sit up I belch a half a dozen times releasing huge quantities of air. The rest of the air is released out the other end either during the night or in the morning. The good thing is a bunch of air in the stomach doesn't kill ya...it's just another inconvience associated with cpap treatment.

dsm · Post by **dsm** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:16 am

[quote="andyomega"]Hi, im trying to find out one specific thing about aerophagia.

A) does bi-level technology that makes breathing feel more natural reduce this problem?
-or-
B) does a reduction in pressure by using an APAP help to reduce this problem?

I have been all over the internet and there doesnt seem to be any soild information on what technology is best for this.

What do you guys think?
Personaly, I belive Bi-level does the trick based on personal experince.
I am trying to find an answer because I am writing a letter to the director of the sleep clinic.

sleepyred · Post by **sleepyred** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:51 am

On straight cpap it is unavoidable for me
On cpap with cflex set to 3 it increases
On Apap still had it

So my own vote is that BiLevel is my cure for bothersome levels of Aerophagia.

DSM - did your apap help any better than your cpap? I see that biLevel is for you - but that is not something I can get now.

Out of the three above, which worked better for your with aerophagia, if any.

Thanks,
Sleepyred

dsm · Post by **dsm** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:26 pm

sleepyred wrote:
On straight cpap it is unavoidable for me
On cpap with cflex set to 3 it increases
On Apap still had it

So my own vote is that BiLevel is my cure for bothersome levels of Aerophagia.

DSM - did your apap help any better than your cpap? I see that biLevel is for you - but that is not something I can get now.

Out of the three above, which worked better for your with aerophagia, if any.

Thanks,
Sleepyred

Loveylouise · Post by **Loveylouise** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:46 am

listen to the medical conference rooster posted on the relationship of GERD and OSA. Gerd is significant;y worse on the right side. What goes up, must go down?? Since sleeping only on my left side and back now, the past month, do not have any aerophagia. Slept for about an hour this am on my right side, after I woke up and went back to sleep and woke up burping.

roster · Post by **roster** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:00 am

Here is that link to the conference on nocturnal gerd and osa. http://cme-online.med.upenn.edu/index.p ... iid=298124

There may be a causal connection from GERD to aerophagia in cpap patients.

socknitster · Post by **socknitster** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:18 am

Bipap isn't the cure for everyone. I am on bipap auto and can only sleep on my back or I can FEEL THE AIR hitting the wall of my stomach. Very weird sensation! My max pressure is 16, but I spend most of the night at 10/13. I'm treating with GERD meds for my silent GERD and sleep on a medslant wedge from Amazon. (The last is what my sleep doc recommended).

I wish this could be figured out!

Jen

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