Pillow talk & KY Jelly

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Pillow talk & KY Jelly

Post by CarrieS » Mon May 14, 2007 12:59 pm

....hey get your mind out of the gutter...

so now that Ill be trying this Opus pillow set tonight is there anything I should know so I dont wake up with blisters or any other suprises? Should I pile on the KY? Is Ky the best way to avoid blisters - thats what the therapist suggested? I just want to cover all my bases so anything anyone can think of as far as pillow problems inform me now please.

Thanks much!

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Post by DreamStalker » Mon May 14, 2007 1:24 pm

Rinse off the new pillows in tap water and let them dry out before using them.
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Post by mikemoran » Mon May 14, 2007 1:25 pm

Ky might give you a better seal, but I haven't been using anything on my Opus. I have very sensitive nares and these pillows are very soft and haven't caused any of the usual sores I have had with other pillows. Just make sure you was the pillows well before first use and your nose as well.

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Post by Snoozeomatic » Mon May 14, 2007 6:43 pm

Like the little old lady in the hospital said after she was asked if she enjoyed her breakfast: Everything was just wonderful except that
Kentucky Jelly. lol
I guess KY would be the best for the buck, but I prefer (Ayr Saline Nasal
Gel) with Aloe Vera. I put a small amount on a Q-Tip & run it around
my nasal pillows & just inside my nares.
Good Luck,
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Post by RAINSUX » Mon May 14, 2007 6:54 pm

Another vote for Ayr Gel. It works great for my Swift and me. It immediately changed me from barely compliant to all night, every night. I have no class, though. I just smear it around with my finger.

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Post by Snoozeomatic » Mon May 14, 2007 7:05 pm

It's not a mater of class for me, It's more like using
a one hitter in the 60's & 70's
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Post by DreamStalker » Mon May 14, 2007 7:07 pm

I use Ayrs Gel w/ Aloe too ... but I don't use Q-tips.

I'm not as formal, I just smear the stuff around the inside of my nose with my finger ... but then I also eat my breakfast tacos, pizza, and bar-b-q with my hands too
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Post by Babette » Thu May 17, 2007 2:19 pm

Okay, you knew that subject line would draw ME in eventually...

Here's my question: When using KY, or Neosporin, or whatever, is what we are doing increasing the seal, or decreasing the friction? Or both?

For me, with my CL2 and OptiLife, I didn't feel the need for anything on my nose. BUT, I was having sealing issues, so I read some threads about using various products to increase the seal. Didn't get around to trying it. Call it the random nature of my sleep deprived brain.

Now, with the Breeze, I have NO seal problems, in fact, I have to delicately peel those pillows out of my nose or it hurts so bad I have to whimper and cry. So, I promptly raided the cupboard and settled on the Neosporin. First night, it was okay, but still some sticking in the morning. Last night I threw caution to the wind and greased my nose and upper lip up good. No problems at all! Everybody's happy this AM.

So... What I'm thinking is that this is lubrication. Which gets me back to some... er... previous chatting I've done on... er... ADULT forums, about lubrication and .... er... plastic products.

Silicone and water-based products are highly touted. These can be spendy. I'm not such a geek that I'm willing to fork over $20 for a 4 oz bottle of sex lube. The reason some people do, is to extend the life of their very spendy SILICONE sex toys.

SO... I'm sharing this tidbit with you who use SILICONE pillows. You might want to be sure your LUBRICANT is NON ALCOHOL, NON SUGAR. Yes, you heard me right - sugar.

A very good product, reasonably priced, and well, local to me, is Slippery Stuff: http://www.wallace-medical.com/default.htm

BTW, it also works very well to get lice out of your kids hair. My school nurses swear by it. Really. I buy cases of this stuff every year.

So, I'm just SHARING, no doubt too much, as usual.

Cheers,
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Post by WillSucceed » Thu May 17, 2007 2:24 pm

Here's my question: When using KY, or Neosporin, or whatever, is what we are doing increasing the seal, or decreasing the friction? Or both
I would not be using Neosporin, or any other antibiotic, unless required to treat an injury to the skin. Using any type of antiboitic, when not needed, is not a great idea as you can become colonized by a bug that becomes resistant to the antibiotic. Then, when you NEED the antibiotic, you may find it to be less effective, or totally ineffective.

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Post by Babette » Thu May 17, 2007 2:28 pm

Ah! Good tip! Thanks! Someone mentioned Neosporin on another thread, and it stuck in my head. I had that in the cabinet, and didn't have KY or the other stuff mentioned.

BTW - Glycol/glycerine is the sugar you don't want in your product, if you're using silicone pillows. It reacts badly with the silicone, and can cause problems with your skin and mucus membranes.

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Post by JeffH » Thu May 17, 2007 2:35 pm

Like this....

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Post by Snoozeomatic » Fri May 18, 2007 12:47 pm

Nice Pic. Jeff but I think you could have done a little better on the caption like----A picture of a retired Proctologist that can't figure out why no one
wants to greet him with a hand shake.

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Post by Babette » Fri May 18, 2007 1:40 pm

Hey Jeff, can I use that pic for my new avatar?

BTW, found the Ayr gel last night. Worked okay. Not great for LUBE, but nose feels okay today, so I guess it will work.

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Post by RosemaryB » Fri May 18, 2007 3:15 pm

When I first started using the Swift, I didn't use anything because I had to find out if any of the products contained gluten (it's hidden in many medical supplies). So, I developed some sore spots where the pillows hit my nose.

Then I found out neosporin was gluten free and I started using it during the day to clear up the sores. Then found out about KY being ok and started using it. My nose healed. I decided to try it without KY and so far it's not sore.

But here there's indication that it will help with the seal. Is that true?

Also, those of you who like Ayr Gel, what makes it better than KY?

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Post by Babette » Fri May 18, 2007 3:19 pm

Well, that was my question - is this for seal, or comfort?

For me, with the Breeze, it's for comfort. I need lubrication/comfort more than seal.

I don't know about the Swift, haven't tried that one.

KY is looking preferable to me because Ayr tends to absorb like a moisturizer, vs. sitting on top of the skin like a lubricant. I really liked the Neosporin...

Ah well, I'll keep at it!

Cheers,
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