Water in hose

niveks · Post by **niveks** » Wed May 16, 2007 6:51 am

Last night I woke up to a vibrating noise. I thought it was the way I had the mask and so I adjusted it and went back to sleep but I awoke again to the noise. This time I took the mask off and noticed the noise was coming from the hose. There was a lot of water build up at the tip of the hose so I took it off from the machine and a teaspoon amount of water came out of the hose.

I had my humidifier setting at 3. I should also mention that it was raining last night and I had my bedroom window open. I also had a lot of mask leaks last night. I couldn't get the mask right for the life of me.

I am just wondering if this has happened to others, if it was a combination of the air leaks and the rain or if there is a problem with my machine.

Thanks
Kevin

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Wed May 16, 2007 7:32 am

sounds like you have a leaky roof

water in the hose is called rainout. It is caused by having the humidifier up too high. The heated humidifier won't warm the incoming air, it only adds more moisture the higher you turn it up, the higher the humidity the warmer the incoming air will "seem".

With it raining outside, you were already at 100% humidity. Should of had the heat on the humidifier lower or even off.

Those rainout droplets can wake and even hurt if they hit you in the face.

niveks · Post by **niveks** » Wed May 16, 2007 7:40 am

[quote="Snoredog"]sounds like you have a leaky roof

water in the hose is called rainout. It is caused by having the humidifier up too high. The heated humidifier won't warm the incoming air, it only adds more moisture the higher you turn it up, the higher the humidity the warmer the incoming air will "seem".

With it raining outside, you were already at 100% humidity. Should of had the heat on the humidifier lower or even off.

Those rainout droplets can wake and even hurt if they hit you in the face.

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I understand what you are saying snoredog. However it wasn't droplets in the mask. It was water sitting in a section of the hose that sits on the floor beside my bed.

I do however think it was due to the rain and the fact that there was already lots of moisture in the air.

It is still raining today and I will need to nap later as I work tonight so I am going to shut the humidifier right off and see if I get the water in the hose again.

But when I first started my cpap about a month ago I got rainout. Drops would hit my nose and wake me up. I made adjustments and didn't get them anymore. Not till last night did I have a problem with water at all.

For some season the last few days I have had a hard time getting the air leaks out of the mask and it has been a struggle. But the water in the hose had me worried.

Hurricane · Post by **Hurricane** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:13 am

Niviks, Do you take your hose off and hang it somewheres to air dry it ,this helps it dry out because air can circulate thru hose being its not attached to cpap machine. if there are any tiny droplets in the hase which you can't see, this will dry them out, hose covers a must, homemade or purchased. other than that a good life preserver.
Ed

niveks · Post by **niveks** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:16 am

[quote="Hurricane"]Niviks, Do you take your hose off and hang it somewheres to air dry it ,this helps it dry out because air can circulate thru hose being its not attached to cpap machine. if there are any tiny droplets in the hase which you can't see, this will dry them out, hose covers a must, homemade or purchased. other than that a good life preserver.
Ed

wolftracker · Post by **wolftracker** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:41 am

form a puddle.

the dropplets run down to the lowest point
that is why you had a tsp of water

Hurricane · Post by **Hurricane** » Wed May 16, 2007 8:55 am

Hi Kevin,
About washing the hose, once aweek I run one cup of water mixed with one cup of white vinegar thru the hose then rinse with clear water, one time I got lazy and didn't rinse it well, and my wife complained she felt like she was sleeping next to Italian salad dressing, I told her to get some lettuce, which she didn't find any humor in.
Ed

niveks · Post by **niveks** » Wed May 16, 2007 9:26 am

wolftracker wrote:form a puddle.

the dropplets run down to the lowest point
that is why you had a tsp of water

Thanks I never thought about that. Kinda a simple thought but passed me by. Never happened before I figure cause we haven't had a lot of rain here in the last month.

And Hurricane that was funny. And thanks for the cleaning tip.

JeffH · Post by **JeffH** » Wed May 16, 2007 10:52 am

I don't think it is possible to get humidity above 100%. If it is raining outside, then the ambient air humidity is at or very close to 100%. Take this air and try to add more moisture to it and it has to go somewhere.....to the lowest point in your hose. Next time it is raining, you might want to turn the humidity setting down.

new here · Post by **new here** » Wed May 16, 2007 9:44 pm

We recommend washing the hose once a week with a mild detergent - water and vinegar every couple of weeks.

The water in your tubing could be condensation from the difference in the humidifier temp and the room temp. I've found that people have problems with condensation such as you described when sleeping in cooler, air conditioned rooms. A hose cover can help that problem -

Spinfall · Post by **Spinfall** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:37 pm

I use to get rainout every night until I received my comfort sleeve. That has fully taken care of the problem.

niveks · Post by **niveks** » Thu May 17, 2007 7:31 pm

Thanks everybody. It rained again last night and I turned it down to 1. It worked great with no water in the hose at all when I woke this morning.

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