Mask Rainout?

SamCurt · Post by **SamCurt** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:26 am

After my dad changed into a 420e, there has been a problem about mask rainout-- without the use of a humidifier.

He has been trying out Somnosmart and REMStar Auto Classic and there had been little rainout problem-- at most some condensation seen on the mask but not rainout. However after using the 420e there has been heavy rainout-- the moisture coming from his breath-- and even in warm temperatures (20C).

Can someone help me? Current settings is 5-20mmH2O, 5 minute ramp, FL 0.

bdp522 · Post by **bdp522** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:33 am

I think if the pressure is too low it helps the humidity from your breath sit in the mask. At higher pressure the exhaust will vent out the moisture. If there are no medical reasons to the contrary, I would(if it were me) move the bottom pressure up a notch(maybe 2). Did they give you a single titrated pressure to work with?

Brenda

TiredMommy · Post by **TiredMommy** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:50 pm

I had BAD rainout, so I ordered a snuggle hose from cpap.com. My humidifer is set at 4 and I keep my bedroom temperature at 70 or below. So far, I have not had a single night with rainout since I got the snuggle hose. It was well worth it.

Hope this helps.

SamCurt · Post by **SamCurt** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:09 am

TiredMommy wrote:I had BAD rainout, so I ordered a snuggle hose from cpap.com. My humidifer is set at 4 and I keep my bedroom temperature at 70 or below. So far, I have not had a single night with rainout since I got the snuggle hose. It was well worth it.

Hope this helps.

My dad does not use a humidifier and the moisture came from his breath, as mentioned above.

DreamStalker · Post by **DreamStalker** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:40 am

I cannot explain why there is a difference just between different machines if no HH is being used. Perhaps the ambient or relative humidity of the sleep environment has increased?

If that is the case, you may want to get a room dehumidifier. The Aussie hose (an electric self warming hose) may also help if your dad does not find the wamer-drier air unpleasant.

In either case, you will want to keep an eye on him so that he does not become dehydrated if he is losing that much moisture through his breathing alone.

Hope you get it all worked out.

tillymarigold · Post by **tillymarigold** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:52 am

Just wanted to say that I am using the old REMstar Auto (w/ HH but also hose cover) and am also getting mask rainout in my CL2, with condensation in the nosepiece just from exhalation (no condensation in the hose or in the upper part of the mask).

I appreciate the tip about its being related to pressure, mine is 6-9 so that's probably it. I'm just trying to sleep on my side in the latter part of the night so the condensation falls into the side of the nosepiece rather than back into my nose!

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