New Article: New concerns

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Holocron
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New Article: New concerns

Post by Holocron » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:43 am

New article regarding more issues on Philips machines: https://www.propublica.org/article/phil ... of-concern

In 2021, Philips pulled its popular sleep apnea machines and ventilators off the shelves after discovering that an industrial foam built into the devices to reduce noise could release toxic particles and fumes into the masks worn by patients. "But as Philips publicly pledged to send out replacements, supervisors inside the company's headquarters near Pittsburgh were quietly racing to manage a new crisis that threatened the massive recall and posed risks to patients all over again," reports ProPublica. "Tests by independent laboratories retained by Philips had found that a different foam used by the company -- material fitted inside the millions of replacement machines -- was also emitting dangerous chemicals, including formaldehyde, a known carcinogen."

"Though Philips has said the machines are safe, ProPublica and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette obtained test results and other internal records that reveal for the first time how scientists working for the company grew increasingly alarmed and how infighting broke out as the new threat reached the highest levels of the Pittsburgh operation. The findings also underscore an unchecked pattern of corporate secrecy that began long before Philips decided to use the new foam." From the report:
The company had previously failed to disclose complaints about the original foam in its profitable breathing machines, a polyester-based polyurethane material that was found to degrade in heat and humidity. Former patients and others have described hundreds of deaths and thousands of cases of cancer in government reports. After the introduction of the new foam in 2021, this one made of silicone, the company again held back details about the problem from the public even as it sent out replacement machines with the new material to customers around the world.

One of the devices was the DreamStation 2, a newly released continuous positive airway pressure, or CPAP, machine promoted as one of the company's primary replacements. Federal regulators were alerted to the concern more than two years ago but said in a news release at the time that the company was carrying out additional tests on the foam and that patients should keep using their replacements until more details were available. The Food and Drug Administration has not provided new information on the test results since then, and it is still unclear whether the material is safe. That leaves millions of people in the United States alone caught in the middle, including those with sleep apnea, which causes breathing to stop and start through the night and can lead to heart attacks, strokes and sudden death.

The new foam isn't the only problem: An internal investigation at Philips launched in the months after the recall found that water was condensing in the circuitry of the DreamStation 2, creating a new series of safety risks. "Loss of therapy, thermal events, and shock hazards," the investigation concluded. The FDA issued an alert about overheating last month, warning that the devices could produce "fire, smoke, burns, and other signs of overheating" and advising patients to keep the machines away from carpet, fabric and "other flammable materials." Philips has said that customers could continue using the devices if they followed safety instructions. ...

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Re: New Article: New concerns

Post by ILoveFlowers » Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:24 pm

Just saw a new report about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkLgSKczeVM

Investigators seem to be claiming that it is sources within the company who are expressing concern over testing results of the new silicone material in the replacement machines, that it is emitting formaldehyde and other chemicals. Philips continues to claim the replacement machines are safe and have passed independent testing. The truth needs to come out.
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Re: New Article: New concerns

Post by sauerkraut » Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:58 am

Reports say phillips delayed the original recall until they had no other choice but to fix the problem !!
But it took years to supply replacement machines to those affected .. Philips is still working on replacing the
originally recalled equipment ..
It looks like they are repeating the same mistakes .. The reports on this new foam seem to indicate a choice of
cheap (reduce cost) versus known quality (more expensive) .. At the peril of the Customers using the equipment ..
How long will it take before the recall starts on the replacement machines ?? Will philips survive the law suits
to fix the problems they have caused ?? Will the rest of the medical equipment industry learn from this ??
It seems to Me that cost cutting to improve profit over quality will end in problems the vast majority of the time ..
I hope philips does the right thing for the people affected !! Though I have My doubts ..

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Re: New Article: New concerns

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:43 pm

Having never owned a P-R machine: PRICELESS!

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Re: New Article: New concerns

Post by Grumpy48 » Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:53 pm

Don't buy a new car, furniture, or carpets. They all emit/off-gas formaldehyde as well as other nasty cancer causing fumes.
https://nypost.com/2021/02/22/new-car-s ... ens-study/

It's easy to say a CPAP emits a gaseous chemical, but another to cite how many PPM (parts per million) is emitted and is it within a safe level of which the reports I've seen fail to mention either purposefully or because they don't know. If you watch enough Youtube videos you come to realize that those information creators tend to exaggerate or leave out facts to benefit themselves by building a subscriber base and income from advertising.
Even the foam used in most manufacturers CPAP masks (Resmed included) will contain formaldehyde.

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Re: New Article: New concerns

Post by bwexler » Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:09 pm

Unlike Chunkyfrog I have owned and used a Resperonics ASV machine for almost 5 years/15,000 hours.
When I contacted Philips I was told my machine was NOT affected by the recall. I stopped using it 5 years ago, long before I heard anything about a recall.
I had a second machine that belonged to my brother in law. He refused to use it when he needed it, and no longer has any use for it. I gave that one to my daughter, who dutifully packed it away in her garage. She hasn't found time to look for it and provide me with the serial number so I can determine if that one is on the recall list. I will accept what ever cash they offer. doubt if I want bother with a replacement from Phillips.

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