Slimline vs Standard... More Air?

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Re: Slimline vs Standard... More Air?

Post by Iwantsleep » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:35 pm

I just got my s9 h5i, i have a climate control hose. Do i put the setting on slim line or standard?

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Re: Slimline vs Standard... More Air?

Post by Pugsy » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:52 pm

Iwantsleep wrote:I just got my s9 h5i, i have a climate control hose. Do i put the setting on slim line or standard?
The machine will detect the Climatehose all by itself. You don't have to do a thing with the settings once the ClimateLine is plugged in.
The slimline choice is for the slimline hose without the heat.
The regular choice is for the generic standard non heated hose.

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Re: Slimline vs Standard... More Air?

Post by deeleegar » Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:02 pm

Regardless of theories, formulas and calculations, when I used the slimline tubing with my AirSense 10, I felt like I was smothering. I had the tubing setting on slimline.

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Re: Slimline vs Standard... More Air?

Post by zonker » Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:03 pm

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Re: Slimline vs Standard... More Air?

Post by deeleegar » Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:15 pm

Regardless of theories, formulas, and calculations, I felt like I was being suffocated when I used the slimline tubing…. And I had the tubing setting on slimline.

According the the AirSense 10 User Guide, page 16:
The Pressure sensor is “Internally located at device outlet" and the Flow Sensor is "Internally located at device inlet".
This means it does not measure airflow or pressure at the mask. It only measures what is coming out of the machine.

The Resmed Elite II, (which is discontinued), HAD A SETTING FOR THE TUBE LENGTH - BECAUSE THE PRESSURE AND AIRFLOW AT THE MASK IS AFFECTED BY THE LENGTH OF THE TUBING.

I suppose in theory, the “self-adjusting” feature on the AirSense 10 eliminates the need for a tube length setting. In my experience, the “self-adjusting” is useless. I had an air leak at the mask all night. The next day the machine had a smiley face for the mask seal and my Total Air Score was over 95

I felt much better when using the Resmed Elite II (discontinued). It is a far superior machine in performance and the quality of materials and workmanship.

All of the fancy bells and whistles on the Airsense 10 serves the insurance companies and doctors, not the user.

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Re: Slimline vs Standard... More Air?

Post by palerider » Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:29 pm

deeleegar wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:15 pm
Regardless of theories, formulas, and calculations, I felt like I was being suffocated when I used the slimline tubing…. And I had the tubing setting on slimline.

According the the AirSense 10 User Guide, page 16:
The Pressure sensor is “Internally located at device outlet" and the Flow Sensor is "Internally located at device inlet".
This means it does not measure airflow or pressure at the mask. It only measures what is coming out of the machine.

The Resmed Elite II, (which is discontinued), HAD A SETTING FOR THE TUBE LENGTH - BECAUSE THE PRESSURE AND AIRFLOW AT THE MASK IS AFFECTED BY THE LENGTH OF THE TUBING.

I suppose in theory, the “self-adjusting” feature on the AirSense 10 eliminates the need for a tube length setting. In my experience, the “self-adjusting” is useless. I had an air leak at the mask all night. The next day the machine had a smiley face for the mask seal and my Total Air Score was over 95

I felt much better when using the Resmed Elite II (discontinued). It is a far superior machine in performance and the quality of materials and workmanship.

All of the fancy bells and whistles on the Airsense 10 serves the insurance companies and doctors, not the user.
Regardless of your *FEELINGS*, all of what you're gibbering on about doesn't actually reflect reality.

Unless you chose to use a non-standard length of tubing, then your ranting about that is immaterial, since the ancient days of the Elite II, the industry has standardized on 6 foot hoses. Now, if you have a bilevel machine, then there is a setting for 3meter hoses, because the hose length matters MORE on a bilevel machine.

What matters FAR MORE than hose length is the hose diameter, so that's what setting is on the machine.

No, it doesn't measure air flow at the mask, because air flow is the same throughout the system.

If you didn't have an air leak at the mask, (that's what those vent holes are for, after all) then you would be dead, and wouldn't be here spewing your nonsensical noise in hopes (no doubt) of misleading new users, which we won't tolerate.

The ancient Resmed Elite II is, in no way, better than the modern machines. (except maybe it ran on 12 volts).

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Re: Slimline vs Standard... More Air?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:45 pm

deeleegar wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:15 pm
Regardless of theories, formulas, and calculations,
You forgot to ignore the success of about 8 million slimline users in the U.S. alone.

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Re: Slimline vs Standard... More Air?

Post by palerider » Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:52 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:45 pm
deeleegar wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:15 pm
Regardless of theories, formulas, and calculations,
You forgot to ignore the success of about 8 million slimline users in the U.S. alone.
I'm sure deeleegar FEELS that those users are all actually not getting any benefits from their slimline tubes.

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Re: Slimline vs Standard... More Air?

Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:10 pm

More proof that the placebo effect can work both ways.
"Fat hose = more air." Redneck logic?

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