dataq1 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:10 pm
Actually don't have a question for them, I just wanted to clarify that OSCAR does a tad more than simply reporting and "connecting the dots". There are some parameters that they do calculate with their own algorithms.
dataq1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:01 pm
I could be mistaken, but actually some of the data that OSCAR reports on the Daily page is actually derived values. For example, inspiration and expiration times are not reported by Autoset, rather are calculated by OSCAR and is not on the SD card.
This is exactly the type of posting you do that alienates people.
dataq1 wrote: ↑Fri May 27, 2022 12:44 pm
You say I have alienated a lot of people...... but I'm failing to see how or what
I might have done to cause that alienation.
I really have tried to be polite, avoided name-calling and the like, so I don't know how I've alienated a lot of people.
Are some of the values reported by OSCAR calculated or derived? Of course they are. Is it significant enough to correct others, should they make a generalized statement that OSCAR reports the data the machine provides. No, its not.
OSCAR takes the values, as provided by the device, reports it, but also will provide other calculations to present the data in more meaningful or useful ways.
What is significant, is that OSCAR does not perform modification or interpretation of the data that is not necessarily supported by the algorithms. Examples of which include:
- Attempting to determine when one is awake or asleep
- Attempting to determine sleep stage by breathing patterns
- Attempting to determine severity of events by reduction of flow or length
- Attempting to determine sleep quality by length or disturbances
- etc
Cripes, the moment OSCAR reports the tube temperature in Fahrenheit it's presenting a derived (calculated) value. As the machine stores and provides temperature values in Celsius. Is it essiential to tell others that their Fahrenheit temperatures are derived and not reported?
Why must you to correct others, should they make the general statement OSCAR only reports?
What is important is that the OSCAR using population be aware that significant events reported by OSCAR, are not derived by OSCAR.
Things like:
- Event type, time, length
- Pressures
- Flow amounts
- Leaks
- etc
The fact that OSCAR value adds, by providing other useful values, average, total and graphs, should not be something that you need to correct others on. Especially others that actually do provide real world, useful, relevant advice.
It has been important to the developers of OSCAR that it only reports and not interpret data. They have deliberately removed some values (ie reported length on ResMed hypopneas) because that actually was an estimated minimum. This has been important, so that some sources such as insurance, DOT and others can consider OSCAR's compliance. You running around telling others that OSCAR does more than reports but derives, calculates and uses its own algorithms, damages the credibility of OSCAR and the individuals you're correcting.
But, I don't think you really are interested in *why* you have been alienated or considered tedious by others.