So-Clean II - Skin Irritation

[EagleOne]

I've been using daily my So-Clean II for over 2 years, replacing filters, etc., as directed with no issues. I also use aloe vera wipes on the full-face mask membrane. Recently I've noticed skin irritation at the footprint of the full-face mask membrane. Is this a sign that my So-Clean is no longer doing its job? Thanks in advance.

[LSAT]

Here's what the FDA says about Ozone...https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/saf ... chines-and

[khauser]

Do a search on the forum for soclean ... you'll soon learn it is not a respected device here.

Sorry

[chunkyfrog]

We already know that ozone damages quite a few materials in your cpap and accessories
The by-products of this damage could trigger allergic reactions.
Good luck getting those crooks to make it right for you . . .
Put it out with the trash--exactly where it belongs.

[ChicagoGranny]

I've been using daily my So-Clean II for over 2 years

In case you are interested:

I have a uri so was unable to use last night.

I had a mild cold last week for two days. I am sure it was mild and short-lived because CPAP helped me breathe and sleep well. It's always important to use CPAP, and the most important time may be when one has a cold.

I ordered a so clean

Return it for the full money refund they guarantee.

Risks:
The residual smell of ozone may be unpleasant and risky. Ozone exposure is potentially dangerous among those with respiratory conditions. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration describes it as a “toxic gas with no known useful medical application.” The Environmental Protection Agency says that relatively low amounts of ozone can cause shortness of breath and worsen chronic respiratory disease.

In fact, ironically, exposure to it may compromise the body’s ability to fight respiratory infections.

...

Ultimately, the available CPAP cleaners and sanitizers seem unlikely to provide additional cleaning capacity beyond standard methods of cleaning with soap and water. There is no evidence that these devices reduce the risk of infection.

These companies also have no financial interest in investigating this possibility. The devices sell well without any such study. This may reveal much about the motivation behind the recent push in direct-to-consumer marketing of the product, beyond the science supporting its use.

A Word From Verywell
Further research may be helpful to determine if these devices have any role in routine CPAP therapy. The risk of infection is so small, and the evidence for benefit so weak, that these devices are not currently recommended. Save your money and buy a lifetime supply of liquid dish soap instead!

https://www.verywellhealth.com/do-you-n ... in-4171650

From a microbiologist with 25 years experience with sterilization and disinfection of equipment and facilities used in the production of sterile pharmaceuticals:

I will give you some facts, and I base the facts on the fact that I am the one who works in the industry of low temperature sterilzation

1. So Clean claims they use the same technology as is used in hospitals. LIE - the hospital ozone sterilizers cost upwards of 100,000.00 and require an O2 farm (a room with 15 to 20 tall O2 cylinders) to provide pure oxygen to extract the ozone. Besides the fact that SoClean lied about this, why on earth do you think a 300.00 device can even come close to what a 100,000.00 device can do. If SoClean was validated to sterilize or even high level disinfect, hospitals would have hundreds of them rather than the 100K devices. The SoClean just does not have the power to do what you think it does.

2. It does not clean. Period. You think it does, place a small dab of peanut butter in your hose and see if it is still there when the cycle is complete. You think this is not a good test, it is the basis of the VA soil test, the test that all medical cleaners must pass or they cannot claim to clean.

3. Amazon reviews - nothing but feel good stories. I have not read one Amazon review that can factually claim that the SoClean kills germs. If you know of one, please post the link because I would like to read it. What is the basis of a 5 star review when all they can go on is they like it? Meaningless.

4. I did own a SoClean on the 30 day trial, when I realized what it was vs. the claims they make I returned it under the 30 day return policy. Why not just get one of the room ozone fans and hang your mask in front of it, they would both do the same thing which is nothing.

I am just repeating the same thing I have typed here about a hundred times; for now on I will just say it is awesome, give the scammers your money, you will love it.

viewtopic/t157842/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1 ... 9#p1210375

Edit: SoClean is being sued for False Advertising and other violations of law - https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/14 ... clean-inc/

Edit: ResMed changed their warranty terms to include a statement that use of an ozone-cleaning machine may void their CPAP machine warranty.

January 8, 2020
To Our Valued Patient,
ResMed announced an update to its limited warranty that may affect whether you choose to use an ozone
device with your ResMed machine and mask. Please review the detail of this update below.*

ResMed user guides advise patients to periodically clean ResMed machines, components and masks with
mild detergent and warm water only. Some patients choose to use other means to clean and/or disinfect
their machines. With the increased use of ozone devices, ResMed has observed that prolonged and
repeated use of an ozone device may eventually cause internal damage to a ResMed machine, leading to
an increase in motor noise.
Warranty update: Effective for sales of ResMed machines on or after February 1, 2020, ResMed’s limited
warranty will exclude damage to ResMed machines caused by use of ozone devices. The limited warranty
on ResMed masks, with the exception of ResMed AirTouch™ products, will not be affected.
ResMed is not taking a position on whether you should use an ozone device. That decision is up to you, as
the patient, to balance the convenience of using an ozone device versus the likelihood of potential damage
to your ResMed machine. ResMed is reinforcing the cleaning instructions in its machine user guide:
periodic cleaning with mild detergent and warm water is all that is required with a ResMed machine,
component or mask. This letter requires no action on your part.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact the manufacturer of the ozone device you are
currently using or, for medical advice, your physician.
Sincerely,
Your home care provider

https://www.resmed.com/us/dam/documents ... letter.pdf

[EagleOne]

Thank you all for your input. OMG! My So-Clean has been officially decommissioned! We'll see if my skin irritation goes away on its own.

[palerider]

I've been using daily my So-Clean II for over 2 years,

Well, there's your first mistake.

. Is this a sign that my So-Clean is no longer doing its job? Thanks in advance.

It never has, they're a scam.

[Deborah K.]

You mention using aloe vera wipes on your mask. Some folks react poorly to aloe vera on their skin. I know I do. That could be the reason for your skin irritation. Just something to consider

[Pamdooley]

I was getting a rash around my Nose, nasal mask. I had been on prescription medication for several weeks. It would clear up only to come right back again. My husband and I went to visit our son in another state and I left the Soclean at home but took my CPAP, of course. Within three days the rash was gone. We were gone for about two weeks and the rash did not come back. When we returned home, the first thing I did was put my mask inside the Soclean. The next morning the rash was back. That’s when I went online and found this discussion. It never occurred to me that it would’ve been in the machine which I bought to clean my mask. I have stopped using the Soclean and now my rash is gone and has been gone for over a week. I paid a lot of money for this machine and I used for years without a problem. So it makes me think something is wrong with the machine now that wasn’t when I first bought it. I have replaced the filters when needed so I don’t think that’s the problem. But I will not go back to using this machine now.

[Goofproof]

Amazing how smart a little rash can make one. Jim

[Julie]

If you've been living under a rock this year, you may not have heard that SoClean's a scam, it invalidates Cpap mfgr's warranties and has been in court all over. If you want details, put its name in the search bar here and read your head off. There have been huge recalls on machines because the SC has ruined the foam in them and you can read about that in the Stickies top of the pg here.

The SC's the problem, not your machine!

[chunkyfrog]

If you think something has recently gone wrong with the SC,
IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
As others have already pointed out, the device Is a scam,
which puts out POISON.

[ChicagoGranny]

Hang down your head

[zonker]

Hang down your head

also, you may very well have won the internet for today.