sleepyhead graph question

[snorenomore123]

Can someone tell me why in this graph the leak rate is suddenly non-existent? Trying to analyze why I would have suddenly pulled of my mask at this time.
TIA!

Resmed Airsense 10 for her
N20 nasal pillow
AHI under 1
min pressure 8 max pressure 12
Start at 5 ramp for 40 min

[Julie]

Because we all do that once in a while, or at least a lot of whiles when things are new. If it's just a one-off don't worry about it, if it happens every night and you wake up - is your mask comfortable? Do you know what woke you?

You could try taping the mask straps to your face so that when you start pulling it off, you'll be aware, and readjust it so you go back to sleep. There won't be a leak rate or anything much else if your mask is off.

Did you get the throat thing sorted out?

Best to stick to one thread (previous one or at least this going forward) so we can follow things and not have to look for previous posts.

[snorenomore123]

Because we all do that once in a while, or at least a lot of whiles when things are new. If it's just a one-off don't worry about it, if it happens every night and you wake up - is your mask comfortable? Do you know what woke you?

You could try taping the mask straps to your face so that when you start pulling it off, you'll be aware, and readjust it so you go back to sleep. There won't be a leak rate or anything much else if your mask is off.

Did you get the throat thing sorted out?

Best to stick to one thread (previous one or at least this going forward) so we can follow things and not have to look for previous posts.

the throat issue, I used a slower ramp time and lower starting pressure, but that seems to be causing me some problems. Waking up with headaches despite not seeing any apenas or hypopneas showing up in graph. I'm wondering if it doesn't record these during ramp???

The weird thing about that sudden missing leak rate is I don't take my mask off or reset the machine until after that. So I'm wondering what was going on in the time the leak rate was missing?

[snorenomore123]

Looking at sleepyhead, I notice it doesn't even record any flow limitation during the ramp. I wonder if the software even recognizes hypopneas and apneas during this time?

[Julie]

Sleepyhead isn't even used any more, Oscar is... look at the stickies top of the page and download it to post here.

[snorenomore123]

Sleepyhead isn't even used any more, Oscar is... look at the stickies top of the page and download it to post here.

Interesting, I tried to download it but for some reason it says access forbidden. Tried on two different computers and two different platforms (chrome/ie). Not sure if it is because I'm in a different country?

[Pugsy]

Looking at sleepyhead, I notice it doesn't even record any flow limitation during the ramp. I wonder if the software even recognizes hypopneas and apneas during this time?

The software (be it SleepyHead or OSCAR) only reports what the machine records.
ResMed machines don't record anything during ramp. No OAs, no hyponeas, no centrals and no flow limitations.
One of the reasons we suggest people keep ramp time to a minimum if they must use it or turn it off if they don't need it.

[GrumpyHere]

Interesting, I tried to download it but for some reason it says access forbidden. Tried on two different computers and two different platforms (chrome/ie). Not sure if it is because I'm in a different country?

Try Opera browser with the free VPN location set to Americas.

You can also try your mobile phone then transferring the installer to your PC.

My home ISP is blocked by apneaboard, but my phone isn't.

[Pugsy]

I think there is an alternate website for downloads outside the US but I can't remember where it is.
Go here and ask BlueDragon about your forbidden access problem
https://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t180 ... l?start=90
He monitors that thread but probably won't see your problem in this thread.

[snorenomore123]

I will try the phone hack as I'm also blocked on my comp but not phone. I will also try to reduce ramp this time. That is very concerning that there is no info during ramps....

[snorenomore123]

Looking at sleepyhead, I notice it doesn't even record any flow limitation during the ramp. I wonder if the software even recognizes hypopneas and apneas during this time?

The software (be it SleepyHead or OSCAR) only reports what the machine records.
ResMed machines don't record anything during ramp. No OAs, no hyponeas, no centrals and no flow limitations.
One of the reasons we suggest people keep ramp time to a minimum if they must use it or turn it off if they don't need it.

that is a huge bummer. I will have to try and find a happy medium. Maybe set a lower low pressure. At least then it can work its apap magic.

[Pugsy]

Set the ramp to "auto" ramp instead of whatever you have it set to.
Auto ramp.....ramp ends either when the machine thinks you are asleep or after 30 minutes whichever comes first.
If you are awake you can't have sleep apnea events for the machine to miss recording anyway because you must be asleep for sleep apnea events to happen.

[snorenomore123]

Set the ramp to "auto" ramp instead of whatever you have it set to.
Auto ramp.....ramp ends either when the machine thinks you are asleep or after 30 minutes whichever comes first.
If you are awake you can't have sleep apnea events for the machine to miss recording anyway because you must be asleep for sleep apnea events to happen.

the problem I get is auto always guesses wrong and then I start getting the throat click. I'm wondering if just setting my min pressure at around my starting/waking pressure would be better than a long ramp?

[Pugsy]

Set the ramp to "auto" ramp instead of whatever you have it set to.
Auto ramp.....ramp ends either when the machine thinks you are asleep or after 30 minutes whichever comes first.
If you are awake you can't have sleep apnea events for the machine to miss recording anyway because you must be asleep for sleep apnea events to happen.

the problem I get is auto always guesses wrong and then I start getting the throat click. I'm wondering if just setting my min pressure at around my starting/waking pressure would be better than a long ramp?

Your choice how you wish to handle it. Try different settings or simply accept the fact that ramp doesn't record anything and you need ramp like it is. If you need ramp a certain way so you can fall asleep and stay asleep then that is more important than the lack of events being recorded. Gotta get to sleep first before anything else matters.
From the looks of your report it doesn't look like you missed recording very many anyway.

Sometimes we just have to make compromises. It's not the end of the world when we do.

Or get yourself a DreamStation 2 machine. It records events that happen during ramp.

[BlueDragon]

What country are you in? We've seen problems downloading OSCAR into Taiwan in the past, and some IP ranges may be blocked because of problems with spam etc originating from them. I'm not aware of any other countries that block access, but it would not surprise me if there were.

Please PM me with your IP address so I can check whether blocking is at our end or whether perhaps your country is blocking access.