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[jerryfudd]

I use a heated hose year round. I need the warmer air in the winter to prevent condensation in the hose and/or mask since I keep a rather cold bedroom. It also helps with the fact that the cold air bothers my nose.
In the summer I just turn the hose air temp way down because I don't need the extra warmth in the summer.
I could use a non heated hose I suppose but it is just either to leave the hose alone and change hose air temps as I feel the need.
To me...for the rain out/condensation prevention it's a priceless accessory.

Now if I kept my house at 78 degrees in the winter...I wouldn't need it.

So how much it is worth depends entirely on your own preferences.

I've strangely never had issues with condensation despite living in cold England and not having heating on overnight ever etc.

Not sure I need to spend the money on one then, they aren't that cheap, and not sure the NHS will provide one.

[Pugsy]

Don't buy one for now. Wait and see if you even need it and if you end up with some condensation that becomes annoying (it won't hurt you but a little water in the hose can make an awful racket) the you could maybe fix up some sort of hose cozy to help prevent the moisture from forming.

People went for years without an integrated heated hose by doing some DIY hose cozies that didn't cost much.
People have made hose wraps out of old fleece material....or cut the toes out of some old socks and slide them over the hose. Secure with anything that will keep them in place. You can buy hose cozies as well but it's really easy to make some sort of hose cover out of any material that is lightweight and will help insulate the hose.

[milboltnut]

you raise your humidifier to a higher setting, then 2, you will need insulated hose or a heated hose.

[Pugsy]

You may or may not ever need a heated hose or hose cover with an increase in humidity.
A lot of factors come into play....Ambient room humidity....ambient bedroom air temp....where you route the hose even because some people like to route it under the bed covers and the covers themselves helps keep the air warm enough that it doesn't cool down and release the moisture.

It's just Physics in action....cool air hold less moisture and condensation will happen once the hose air temp drops to whatever the temp is for the cooler air to no longer be able to retain the moisture.

I don't need a heated hose or hose cozy with my setting of 6 in the summer but I need it in the winter.

[milboltnut]

You may or may not ever need a heated hose or hose cover with an increase in humidity.
A lot of factors come into play....Ambient room humidity....ambient bedroom air temp....where you route the hose even because some people like to route it under the bed covers and the covers themselves helps keep the air warm enough that it doesn't cool down and release the moisture.

It's just Physics in action....cool air hold less moisture and condensation will happen once the hose air temp drops to whatever the temp is for the cooler air to no longer be able to retain the moisture.

I don't need a heated hose or hose cozy with my setting of 6 in the summer but I need it in the winter.

Isn't that what I explained to him?

[milboltnut]

You may or may not ever need a heated hose or hose cover with an increase in humidity.
A lot of factors come into play....Ambient room humidity....ambient bedroom air temp....where you route the hose even because some people like to route it under the bed covers and the covers themselves helps keep the air warm enough that it doesn't cool down and release the moisture.

It's just Physics in action....cool air hold less moisture and condensation will happen once the hose air temp drops to whatever the temp is for the cooler air to no longer be able to retain the moisture.

I don't need a heated hose or hose cozy with my setting of 6 in the summer but I need it in the winter.

Isn't that what I explained to him? please don't go tit for tat Pugsy I'd appreciate that !

some people like to route it under the bed covers

why would you suggest something so dumb as to get tangled up under the covers.....???

[Pugsy]

you raise your humidifier to a higher setting, then 2, you will need insulated hose or a heated hose.

This is what you said.
Nothing in it about may or may not in what you said. What you said means a certainty....."will need"
When you give incomplete or incorrect information.....expect it to be corrected and pull up your big boy panties when it happens.

I wasn't talking to you anyway when I said what I said. When I am talking to you I address you and use the quote function.

[jerryfudd]

you raise your humidifier to a higher setting, then 2, you will need insulated hose or a heated hose.

Sorry, that's not right, I had it at 5 with no issue, and 4 with no issue from October to a few weeks ago.

[milboltnut]

so if your conditions change you're prepared for it..... why wait for it to happen? It's the best way to go ... buy one or insulate it.

[milboltnut]

you raise your humidifier to a higher setting, then 2, you will need insulated hose or a heated hose.

This is what you said.
Nothing in it about may or may not in what you said. What you said means a certainty....."will need"
When you give incomplete or incorrect information.....expect it to be corrected and pull up your big boy panties when it happens.

I wasn't talking to you anyway when I said what I said. When I am talking to you I address you and use the quote function.

it's called be prepared.... with or without COMPLETE information...it's called COMMMON SENSE !! WHICH I THINK YOU LACK

Instead of dictating.... and overbearing...and nitpicky,, maybe you would gain some respect !

[Pugsy]

you raise your humidifier to a higher setting, then 2, you will need insulated hose or a heated hose.

This is what you said.
Nothing in it about may or may not in what you said. What you said means a certainty....."will need"
When you give incomplete or incorrect information.....expect it to be corrected and pull up your big boy panties when it happens.

I wasn't talking to you anyway when I said what I said. When I am talking to you I address you and use the quote function.

it's called be prepared.... with or without COMPLETE information...it's called COMMMON SENSE !! WHICH I THINK YOU LACK

Knock it off...one more personal attack comment addressed to me or anyone else or taking this thread off topic with your childish drivel will buy you another time out from posting on the forum...a much longer time out.

Be smart...don't say a damn thing and move on. This is your only warning. It's not nice to piss off the forum moderator...she has a bigger stick than you do.

[milboltnut]

KISS MY FRIGGING ASS !!!! AND YOUR TIME OUT ! STICK THIS SITE UP YOUR ASS !!!!!! iT'S BEEN NOTHING BUT A NUISENSCE AND YOUR THE BIGGEST ONE !

[Pugsy]

As you wish. Justice is swift. Good bye little boy.

My apologies to the OP for the direction this thread went. It won't be going off topic any more.

[jerryfudd]

That was strange, good old internet haha.

I now have a homemade fleece wrap for it to use while I test higher humidity out too.

[DreamDiver]

Fingers crossed for tonight then!

Do most people use a heated hose? Are they worth the money?

Today's machines are far better designed. They generally don't leak just by sitting there, like the M-Series Pro did, and apparently even without a heated hose, perhaps less likely to achieve rain-out. FWIW, a heated tube should probably be included anyway because rain-out just another wake trigger caused by the very system that's supposed to give you better sleep. Some people take old socks, towels, blankets, etc., and sew them into hose wraps, or buy hose wraps on line.

If you're not having any rain-out, that's great!

Chris