Whole House Humidification - Rainout

[tsduke]

It was getting dry in the house so I kicked on our whole house humidifier. Ever since doing so I've been getting rainout in my mask. I'm going through same amount of water each night as I was before turning it on. Even with the home humidifier it's only upper 30's in the house.

Shouldn't the Aircure 10 ASV on auto adjust accordingly?

[babydinosnoreless]

Are you using a heated hose ?

[Pugsy]

What is the house ambient air temperature?
What is the heated hose temp set to.....assuming you are using a heated hose and if you aren't you need to get one.

[tsduke]

Heated hose and I thoought everything including the hose temp were on auto. It's 65-66 in the bedroom at night.

[Pugsy]

Heated hose on auto doesn't always work out so great for preventing condensation. It's not perfect. Believe me....I have first hand experience. I had a tiny bit of water in my mask this morning myself.
You can leave humidity on auto but change the hose air temp to manual and you will likely need near max hose air temp to hold off condensation.
I still get a little bit of condensation sometimes even with max hose air temp of 86 degrees. My bedroom is a little bit cooler than yours.

The machine uses the same amount of water because the amount of increase in the ambient humidity wasn't enough to really lessen the amount of water needed to maintain whatever the auto humidity setting delivers which I think equals a 4 or 5 setting if on manual.

[tsduke]

Ok, so climate control is set to auto. Assuming that is the tube temp? Otherwise the next line says the tube temp is 81.

If so, I will turn off climate control and play with temp.

Thanks!

[Pugsy]

Climate control is humidity.
If you take it off auto the humidity selections will be manual which isn't necessarily a bad thing but you have to figure out what your nose wants.

See if you can just increase the hose air temp and leave humidity on auto. I know I did that for a long time until I started having some sneezing going on in the mornings which for me is a sign I need a little more moisture so I took it off auto and went to manual and set it to 6 for humidity...and the sneezing stopped.
I did this just a week or so ago....but I was having rain out even when set to auto which is why I maxed out the hose air temp...my bedroom can get down to the high 50s if it is really cold outside .
Now that I have increased the humidity (from auto to manual 6)...I really upped the chances of rain out happening. even set at max 86 degrees. It all depends on how cold the bedroom gets.

[tsduke]

Ok, so in order to manually adjust temp tube, I have to switch the humidifier to manual?

[Pugsy]

No...you can keep "auto" humidity" like it is and just change the hose air temp. Hose air temp also has an "auto" option but the fact that you see 81 degrees pretty much tells me that you already have the hose air temp set to manual so you can choose the hose air temp.

Hose air temp is separate from "climate control" which is humidity.
Both can be set to auto. Both can be set to manual. Or you can mix and match...auto humidity and manual hose air temp.
I have never tried manual humidity and hose air to auto...that might work also. I just haven't ever tried it.
The other choices...I have tried them all.

[tsduke]

Thanks, i wil play around with it tonight. At least with the whole home humidity our Bishapoo dog isn't running around looking like he stuff his paw in a sacket. His hair was staticy!

[Pugsy]

Bishapoo huh? They tend to look like they stuck their tongue in the electric socket even on a good day.
Little cuties for sure.
I have a wire haired terrier that sort of looks that way sometimes when we are extra dry here but not as much since he has longer hair so it take a lot more for it to go staticy. He's kinda wild looking pretty much all the time. No 2 hairs ever going in the same direction either.

Sit down with the machine tonight and just go through all the setting and options and you can see which options you get with what settings. Like once you choose manual of either hose or humidity you get more options. You can always try something new and if it doesn't work out so great you can go back to the old way.

I am much happier now with the humidity set to 6....or my nose is more happy. It just doesn't like dry air at all.
My house is just drier in the winter because the furnace tends to dry things out....and that means I am breathing in drier air during the day and when I add in drier air at night the nasal mucosa get all upset and I start getting allergy like symptoms.
I also use simply saline fairly often to help keep the mucosa a bit more moist.
My only real complaint is I still get some rain out even with 86 degrees hose air temp and my only other option left is increase the ambient bedroom temp...and unless the rain out gets really bad I just don't want to do that. I like a cold bedroom.

[D.H.]

Make sure that the unit is lower than your head. That way, condensation will drain back into the reservoir instead of into the mask.

[tsduke]

Putting it lower than my head is easier said than done. I have nowhere to set it unless I put something in front of the night stand and block the drawers.

I never had issues until turning up my home humidier and it's MUCH more humid in the summer here.

[Pugsy]

The lower than bed thing doesn't really let the ResMed AirCurve/AirSense models drain back to the water chamber all that well.
Been there and done that. With the way the long hose attaches at the back of the machine it just doesn't drain all that great no matter how low the machine is below the bed.

I have had enough water in the hose to wake me and I tried standing up on the bed holding the long hose totally vertical and the damn thing still wouldn't drain well enough to stop the racket.
Gravity isn't much help with this model machine due to the shape and way the long hose attaches.

And for water pooling in the mask the lower than bed advice is pretty much useless anyway. When water pools in the mask it's rare that we end up in a position that lets the pooled water go back into the hose.

[tsduke]

Come to think of it how would it ever drain back to humidifier tank on Resmed? I don’t know how it could.

I’m not sure how soaked the hose is. Mostly water in mask issue.