Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

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Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by jon.koelker » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:42 pm

I'm using a chin strap to keep my mouth closed while sleepng; however, that by itself isn't sufficient to prevent air leakage through my lips. So I took some advice from the forum and tried using NexCare Gentle Paper Tape over my lips to prevent that leakage.

The tape works quite effectively, but it is miserable to remove in the morning. At first it was just an annoyance but with continued use, it's now literally pulling skin off my face when I take it off. I don't think I can keep using this.

Does anyone have any other options that have worked well?

Thanks.
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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by zonker » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:08 pm

jon.koelker wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:42 pm
I'm using a chin strap to keep my mouth closed while sleepng; however, that by itself isn't sufficient to prevent air leakage through my lips. So I took some advice from the forum and tried using NexCare Gentle Paper Tape over my lips to prevent that leakage.

The tape works quite effectively, but it is miserable to remove in the morning. At first it was just an annoyance but with continued use, it's now literally pulling skin off my face when I take it off. I don't think I can keep using this.

Does anyone have any other options that have worked well?

Thanks.
user jay aitchsee came up with a good one-

viewtopic/p1089718/viewtopic.php?f=1&t= ... s#p1086296

i've been using this for years. no leaks and no taping. i use it with a p10 nasal pillow mask. works great.

if you DO try it, please let me know if it works for you. it doesn't always work as we are all different.

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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by jon.koelker » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:52 am

Thanks, zonker! I've actually seen this post previously and it does look interesting, not to mention probably a whole lot more comfortable. I think I'm going to give it a try. Appreciate the input.

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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by zonker » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:47 am

jon.koelker wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:52 am
Thanks, zonker! I've actually seen this post previously and it does look interesting, not to mention probably a whole lot more comfortable. I think I'm going to give it a try. Appreciate the input.

jk
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as i say, please let me know which way it goes for you.

oh! i also use a foam cervical collar. that doesn't keep my lips zipped but it does help keep my jaw from sagging.
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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by jon.koelker » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:57 am

Using a chin strap to keep the jaw from dropping.....seems to work OK.
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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by loggerhead » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:32 pm

I have had a similar problem with mouth breathing, no matter what. I finally came up with this solution. I use a good quality chin strap that I wear after I attach tape as detailed here: I take a dried ultra soft sensitive skin cleansing wipe, (baby wipe), and cut it into a roughly 3.25" X 1.5" strip. Be sure to let the wipe dry before you cut it. I then use a 2" wide 3M micropore paper tape cut to approximately 4.5" long. I then center the baby wipe strip onto the sticky side of the tape. I try to match the baby wipe strip so that it covers my lips. Then I stick this to my face. By using the baby wipe strip, the tape can not stick to my tender lips. I also sometimes reinforce the baby wipe strip with 1" wide micropore cloth tape. I use two 2 strips to basically cover the baby wipe strip.

The whole process can be a real pain to do each night. I have been doing this for about 6 years. It does work for me. One other thing, before I apply the tape to my mouth, I always wash and dry the mouth area with soap to remove any oils from my face. This helps the tape to stick to my face. I can't tell you when I have last awaken with the dry mouth that one gets from mouth breathing.

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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by K5MOW » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:58 pm

Is using a full face mask a option. I love my Mirage Quattro.

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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by zonker » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:24 pm

jon.koelker wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:57 am
Using a chin strap to keep the jaw from dropping.....seems to work OK.
oh, i hear what you are saying. chinstrap wasn't a very comfortable thing for me. but lots of folks use 'em.

we are all just that much different in what works for us.
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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by Wulfman... » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:34 pm

Can you breathe through your nose?
If you have congestion, try some nasal cleansing/irrigation before bedtime to open up your nasal passages.
What heated humidity setting are you using?
If you're using some level of heated humidity, try turning it down or off.......and using cooler "passover" humidification.

Train your tongue to stay to the roof of your mouth during the night, too.

And, or, get a full face mask! At least you're not going to lose your therapy air that way.


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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by jon.koelker » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:36 am

zonker wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:47 am
jon.koelker wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:52 am
Thanks, zonker! I've actually seen this post previously and it does look interesting, not to mention probably a whole lot more comfortable. I think I'm going to give it a try. Appreciate the input.

jk

hat-tip.gif

as i say, please let me know which way it goes for you.

oh! i also use a foam cervical collar. that doesn't keep my lips zipped but it does help keep my jaw from sagging.

Hi, zonker. Well, I've used the Scunci headband across me marf for the last two nights and, so far, I'm pretty happy with the results. I'm EXTREMELY happy in the morning when I don't have to yank skin off my face removing that miserable tape!! The previous wounds are actually healing! Still using the chin strap also to keep the jaw shut. I'm going to continue with this method for a while to get a bigger sample size, but the early indication is that this might be a workable solution.

Thanks for the tip!
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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by zonker » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:40 pm

jon.koelker wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:36 am


Hi, zonker. Well, I've used the Scunci headband across me marf for the last two nights and, so far, I'm pretty happy with the results. I'm EXTREMELY happy in the morning when I don't have to yank skin off my face removing that miserable tape!! The previous wounds are actually healing! Still using the chin strap also to keep the jaw shut. I'm going to continue with this method for a while to get a bigger sample size, but the early indication is that this might be a workable solution.

Thanks for the tip!
dang it! i'm on the road and i don't have my gifs with me.

take it as given that i'm pleased as punch to know this method works for you. it makes me feel like i've given something back to the community when i can pass something along.

btw..."marf"?!?!? are you british or are you just having me on? either way, i love it!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by jon.koelker » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:19 pm

zonker wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:40 pm
jon.koelker wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:36 am


Hi, zonker. Well, I've used the Scunci headband across me marf for the last two nights and, so far, I'm pretty happy with the results. I'm EXTREMELY happy in the morning when I don't have to yank skin off my face removing that miserable tape!! The previous wounds are actually healing! Still using the chin strap also to keep the jaw shut. I'm going to continue with this method for a while to get a bigger sample size, but the early indication is that this might be a workable solution.

Thanks for the tip!
dang it! i'm on the road and i don't have my gifs with me.

take it as given that i'm pleased as punch to know this method works for you. it makes me feel like i've given something back to the community when i can pass something along.

btw..."marf"?!?!? are you british or are you just having me on? either way, i love it!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
HA!! Not British, but I love everything about the British, to the point of doing a lousy job of trying to talk like them!! I'll never forget a poem in my high school English lit book, 'Epitaph on a Marf'. I remember it to this day.....
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Re: Solution for open-mouth sleeping?

Post by zonker » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:15 pm

jon.koelker wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:19 pm

HA!! Not British, but I love everything about the British, to the point of doing a lousy job of trying to talk like them!! I'll never forget a poem in my high school English lit book, 'Epitaph on a Marf'. I remember it to this day.....
yup, thought i'd spotted an anglophile. married to one, myself. i think she always wished she WERE born in great britain!
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