keeping machine near the floor

Elle · Post by **Elle** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:31 pm

I have been reading about rainout and not sure what that is. (new here). After reading messages on here I have tried to set up my machine lower to the floor (I used to have it even with head). I find if I put it too close to the floor I have to sleep close to the edge of the bed for the hose not to pull. Are there really long hoses available for this problem? Thanks for all the great advise here.

snoregirl · Post by **snoregirl** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:47 pm

I think there is a slightly longer hose but I also think you don't want too long a hose.

Other option is find box or a short stand or something else that would put it up a little higher to give you more hose but still lower than your head.

The idea is that if any rainout does occur it will run back down the tube in to the tank, not spill into your mask. Of course that doesn't help condensation that occurs in your mask, just the part of the tube that runs downhill.

The other thing I do is I take a piece of tape and put it around the hose at a strategic distance and safty pin the hose to the sheets, this allows me to have less drag on the hose due to gravity.

Of course if you hang your hose over a headboard or the like, that method would not be mixed with the bedsheet pinning

wolftracker · Post by **wolftracker** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:47 pm

there are 10 ft hose available here at cpap.com

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:52 pm

It is important to keep the air going in the machine clean. I use a stand just below the bed. You can get a 10' hose from your supplier, I use them.

You can keep turning the heat up on a HH, until you get rainout if you like more moisture. Lower will be drier. Jim

Elle · Post by **Elle** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:17 pm

thanks for all the suggestions. I just moved it up a bit higher and will trying pinning to the sheets tonight. I love this site. So convenient.

curtcurt46 · Post by **curtcurt46** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:18 pm

You can suspend the hose above your head, either with a hose stand or your own method of suspending. You can then leave the machine on the stand provided your head is higher than the water level of the humidifier. If its on a night stand, it most likely will be below your head. Most cpap makers don't recommend any hose longer than that provided. A longer hose will cause a drop in pressure that the machine may not be able to compensate for. Adding 12" to 18 " to your existing hose probably won't have a significant impact. An extension and connector can be found on our host site.

Best of Luck.

Offerocker · Post by **Offerocker** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:27 pm

I keep my xpap machine on a tiny stool (that is cute, but useless for being a 'step'), which is located at top-end of the bed.
My separate humidifier sits on the floor, next to the xpap (lower than), and is connected to the xpap with a 1' hose.
I use an 8' hose from the HH to my mask. While "prepping" for the night (taping, etc.), I make sure that the excess hose is in the bed, then put on my mask and "push the button"! The hose stays in place all night.

I'm surprised that I wake up in the same position since using xpap successfully. When I had a lot of leaks, I would wake up frequently, turn over, etc.

I've been cusious about why some people have more moisture in their masks than others. Could that be a result of using a full-face mask and mouth-breathing causing additional moisture? I'll put this in a new post.