Machine to Sell....is it permitted?

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Machine to Sell....is it permitted?

Post by atruvirgo » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:13 pm

Hello Cpap'rs

Haven't posted for a long time. I was wondering what the current rules are regarding selling a cpap machine on this site. I know we used to be able to sell CPAP equipment and other supplies. Please let me know if I can sell a very Basic M Series Machine with Humidifier. I only used it for 453 hours before I upgraded. I have a back up machine and this is just sitting in the case taking unnecessary space. Thank you.
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Re: Machine to Sell....is it permitted?

Post by Julie » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:34 pm

You can try to sell anything Cpap related, but it's a good idea to ask people to PM you if they're interested so you can handle things privately at that point.

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Re: Machine to Sell....is it permitted?

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:57 pm

atruvirgo wrote:Hello Cpap'rs

Haven't posted for a long time. I was wondering what the current rules are regarding selling a cpap machine on this site. I know we used to be able to sell CPAP equipment and other supplies. Please let me know if I can sell a very Basic M Series Machine with Humidifier. I only used it for 453 hours before I upgraded. I have a back up machine and this is just sitting in the case taking unnecessary space. Thank you.
I don't think there's much cash value in a regular M-series, even with a humidifier. I've got one just like it in my closet also - luckily, this post reminded me to call Goodwill, so I just left a message to donate it to charity (it's Sunday here in Callie). EDIT: Thinking back... as I recall there was an PR Remstar M-Series Bilevel. That might fetch a few bucks even tho it's a few generations old. Check this: Note it is a Bilevel. http://www.dotmed.com/listing/bi-level- ... es/1466081 Oops... just saw you said 'basic'. Nevermind.

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Re: Machine to Sell....is it permitted?

Post by LinkC » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:56 pm

You might want to read up on Goodwill a bit. They may not be a "charity" you want to support.


http://watchdog.org/56129/fl-florida-go ... employees/

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Post by ems » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:20 pm

LinkC wrote:You might want to read up on Goodwill a bit. They may not be a "charity" you want to support.


http://watchdog.org/56129/fl-florida-go ... employees/
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Post by kaiasgram » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:37 pm

Could also donate to a local sleep center -- some of them accept used machines to donate to patients in need. The American Sleep Apnea Association also has an assistance program and accepts donations.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:41 pm

I have been thinking of putting a note up in the employee area at Wal Mart.
Their insurance doesn't cover cpap equipment.
Retail is the worst job I've ever had, and only the pay is lousier.
Edit: I've actually had 2 worse jobs; telemarketing and hotel maid.
I don't think their benefits are a prize, either.

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Re: Machine to Sell....is it permitted?

Post by Fizzled » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:26 pm

LinkC wrote:You might want to read up on Goodwill a bit. They may not be a "charity" you want to support.

http://watchdog.org/56129/fl-florida-go ... employees/
Most heads of charitable organizations make sizable incomes. You can generally find incomes through several charity watchdog organizations. These salaries aren't always unwarranted; you need to have good people running these organizations so that they can deliver services. Would you want the head of the ACLU making 30,000 dollars a year? Even not for profits need to have competitive wages for experience. Not-for-profit organizations are still businesses with the main distinction being how NET proceeds may be used.

Now, the labor and wage practices I think we have to consider the output of disabled workers and amount of supervision they may require. If in their mission of providing satisfaction/purpose through providing work for disabled individuals requires supervision and guidance for all tasks, it's pretty clear that there's potential for loss. Obviously being paid less than 1 dollar an hour is not a livable wage, but I would wager that most of the special wage workers are not working at goodwill to make a living; they're probably on other state/other aid or being cared for by family members. They're working for social interaction and developing fundamental skills and to that end goodwill may be delivering.

I'm not defending Goodwill, I don't know enough about them to do that. However, I think it's important to consider all perspectives before condemning them.

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Post by newsnore » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:33 pm

Fizzled wrote:
LinkC wrote:You might want to read up on Goodwill a bit. They may not be a "charity" you want to support.

http://watchdog.org/56129/fl-florida-go ... employees/
Most heads of charitable organizations make sizable incomes. You can generally find incomes through several charity watchdog organizations. These salaries aren't always unwarranted; you need to have good people running these organizations so that they can deliver services. Would you want the head of the ACLU making 30,000 dollars a year? Even not for profits need to have competitive wages for experience. Not-for-profit organizations are still businesses with the main distinction being how NET proceeds may be used.

Now, the labor and wage practices I think we have to consider the output of disabled workers and amount of supervision they may require. If in their mission of providing satisfaction/purpose through providing work for disabled individuals requires supervision and guidance for all tasks, it's pretty clear that there's potential for loss. Obviously being paid less than 1 dollar an hour is not a livable wage, but I would wager that most of the special wage workers are not working at goodwill to make a living; they're probably on other state/other aid or being cared for by family members. They're working for social interaction and developing fundamental skills and to that end goodwill may be delivering.

I'm not defending Goodwill, I don't know enough about them to do that. However, I think it's important to consider all perspectives before condemning them.
Why don't we call it for what it really is - greed - we have it here (downunder) too. You may not be defending Goodwill, but are you justifying greed? Quite a comparison $30,000 salary to a $600,000+. Even if they were paid half of what they presently get they could still be getting in excess of 10 times there lowest paid staff. Yes a man is worth his salt, but just remember that there are also those further down the food chain, in these conglomerations, also doing a good job of what they are employed to do (also often under lots of pressure and long hours) and for often between 20 - 100 times less than the what CEO gets (more insalt than salt). And when things do go wrong often these so called clever CEOs and other heads walk off with sickeningly high compensation packages.

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Re: Machine to Sell....is it permitted?

Post by Fizzled » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:16 pm

At what point is a salary greed instead of compensation?

If a private company offered me 600,000 dollars to do my job it's compensation, but if I did the same thing for a charity it'd be greed?

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Post by newsnore » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:11 am

Fizzled wrote:At what point is a salary greed instead of compensation?

If a private company offered me 600,000 dollars to do my job it's compensation, but if I did the same thing for a charity it'd be greed?
I see we have got well off the original topic it sort of has evolved to this. Apologies for this.

Dictionary definition - "Greed = An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth"

I find it hard to understand that a man at the top would be worth 10 - 100 (or even more) times more than his lowest paid employee - surely that fits within the meaning of the word greed. I think what makes it worse with charities is that often people have given their hard earned pennies, thinking that someone who needs it more than them, is going to benefit from this donation, only to find out that someone else at the top (CEO and other heads) has creamed it - someone who, in many cases, is wealthier than the giver.

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Post by Goofproof » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:42 pm

ems wrote:
LinkC wrote:You might want to read up on Goodwill a bit. They may not be a "charity" you want to support.


http://watchdog.org/56129/fl-florida-go ... employees/
This is disgusting and almost impossible to believe!
At least Goodwilly, didn't spend $100 Million U. S. dollars of taxpayers money to vacation in his homeland. Many charities are just money making schemes, some that are NOT, the U.S.O, V.F.W, AMERICAN LEGION. My favorites. Another pet peave, giving to a charity, and having them beg for more money every month for the rest of your life, wasting the money you gave them to help not pump you harder. Jim
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Re: Machine to Sell....is it permitted?

Post by Stormynights » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:08 pm

There was a dump a few miles from where I lived years ago and the Goodwill trucks would go there with loads of stuff that never went to the store. I am not talking about the junk that wasn't sellable. I am talking about truck loads never sorted. The dump would charge a fee for you to go in and look around. If you found anything you wanted you paid for it at the gate. I never went but I saw some of the things people bought from the dump. Very nice things in fact. A lot nicer than some things in their store. I never would donate to Goodwill. I donate to churches that give things to the needy.

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Re: Machine to Sell....is it permitted?

Post by BNB1023 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:06 pm

So....after all of this folks, Are we permitted to sell our CPAP machines on this site???

I need to know, got a resmed aiesense 10 autoset to sell.

Thanks

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Re: Machine to Sell....is it permitted?

Post by palerider » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:12 pm

BNB1023 wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:06 pm
So....after all of this folks, Are we permitted to sell our CPAP machines on this site???

I need to know, got a resmed aiesense 10 autoset to sell.

Thanks
Given that there's a couple for sale in the first couple pages... I'd say "yes"

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