Beyond the Dream Station?

[Kiralynx]

It's hard to believe it's been almost 11 years since I first logged in here at CPAPTalk.

And yup, it's about time to replace my machine.

Actually, my 960 works great for travel, and my Dream Station ASV is great at home, but my husband is considering retiring, and our insurance pays better than Medicare, so I figure I may as well replace it while we have it.

And of course -- the husband may be getting a sleep test if the insurance authorizes it. (He landed himself in the hospital at the end of May with pneumonia. We FINALLY saw the the pulmonologist they wanted him to follow up with last week. Hubby did not mention a sleep test, but I did. He's been falling asleep in his chair every night, and when he does come to bed, he snores. I mentioned that and the pulmonologist looked thoughtful and said that with Hubby's history of asthma and the pneumonia, it was a very good thought.)

In any case, when I got my original Beastie, an ASV, naturally Respironics came out with a new model three months later which had a range of EPAP.

And last time, when I got my 960, a few months later, they came out with the Dream Station.

So, has anyone heard any rumors about a new line of CPAPs?

Just thought I'd check before going ahead and getting a new Dream Station....

[chunkyfrog]

We, the masked, will be the last to know.

[Pugsy]

Haven't heard of any new models but you know they keep that stuff real close under lock and key.

Even if they did I wouldn't expect the ASV model to roll out immediately anyway. Historically they do the apap/cpap models first and then the regular bilevels and then later they do the specialty bilevels.
It was that way with the DreamStation models....cpap/apap was out long before the ASV version was ever released.

[zonker]

Haven't heard of any new models but you know they keep that stuff real close under lock and key.

Even if they did I wouldn't expect the ASV model to roll out immediately anyway. Historically they do the apap/cpap models first and then the regular bilevels and then later they do the specialty bilevels.
It was that way with the DreamStation models....cpap/apap was out long before the ASV version was ever released.

is this because they feel there is a larger market for cpap/apap? or do they like to use the cpap/apap as a sort of test bed to carry over to the more expensive machines?

[Pugsy]

Haven't heard of any new models but you know they keep that stuff real close under lock and key.

Even if they did I wouldn't expect the ASV model to roll out immediately anyway. Historically they do the apap/cpap models first and then the regular bilevels and then later they do the specialty bilevels.
It was that way with the DreamStation models....cpap/apap was out long before the ASV version was ever released.

is this because they feel there is a larger market for cpap/apap? or do they like to use the cpap/apap as a sort of test bed to carry over to the more expensive machines?

Don't know why. They don't ever tell us.

And you may not know it but Respironics doesn't always release an ASV model within a model series. So there's no guarantee that even if a new model series is released that there will be an ASV in that model series.
When the M series models were the latest and greatest there was never any ASV model in the M series model line.
When the System One was the latest and greatest the ASV 960 was close to a year after the cpap/apap models were released.
The DreamStation ASV was not quite so long but it was a few months before it was released after the cpap/apap models.

If I was short on time (like insurance ending soon) and I was wanting to stock up and use that insurance ....I wouldn't wait on Respironics because even if it is tomorrow that we get the news about a new model series the odds are the ASV model will be later.

[zonker]

Don't know why. They don't ever tell us.

marketing, how does it work?

you'd think, much like everything else marketed towards us boomers, that the manufacturers would get their shit together. with the right forces at work, they could really make a bundle by bringing out "new and improved" models periodically.

[TropicalDiver]

marketing, how does it work?

you'd think, much like everything else marketed towards us boomers, that the manufacturers would get their shit together. with the right forces at work, they could really make a bundle by bringing out "new and improved" models periodically.

I don't know anything about their cost/benefit analysis but I will speculate. First, creating a new model likely requires a fair bit of spending (everything from research, retooling, testing) and perhaps even some FDA paperwork. Second, buyers who are connected to an insurance based replacement cycle are unlikely to run out buy the new model just because it is out there. Third, the now "old model" is hard to move at the old prices --- users who are buying most often want the newest model (and some simply won't buy until the new models are out -- either to get the new model or hope to a see a discount on the old model).

On the other hand, you get to sell new hoses, humidifier tanks, and filters around the new machine. And, at least in the US, I think if one of the big two comes out with a new line, the other feels obligated to do the same.

[zonker]

On the other hand, you get to sell new hoses, humidifier tanks, and filters around the new machine. And, at least in the US, I think if one of the big two comes out with a new line, the other feels obligated to do the same.

speculate away! and damn the torpedoes.

yeah i reckon the markets aren't similar at all, but i was thinking of the new car model. get something new, the latest and greatest. get rid of that old clunker.

but then, cars are advertised as being sporty and a way to attract the opposite sex. not sure that would apply to a cpap!

[Kiralynx]

We, the masked, will be the last to know.

Well, that's for certain. OTOH, if any of the masked know, it's probable that someone in this group will!

[Kiralynx]

Haven't heard of any new models but you know they keep that stuff real close under lock and key.

Even if they did I wouldn't expect the ASV model to roll out immediately anyway. Historically they do the apap/cpap models first and then the regular bilevels and then later they do the specialty bilevels.
It was that way with the DreamStation models....cpap/apap was out long before the ASV version was ever released.

As noted above, I figured that if anyone had heard anything, it would be someone in this group.

I do know that the ASV model is about the last of a new line to come out. (That's what I get for needing one!) As you note -- the 960 was way late on the Series One, and the ditto the Dream Station. There were plenty of people raving about their Series Ones while I sat and twiddled my thumbs waiting for the 960.

I really like my current Dream Station, and my 960 makes a great travel unit. But it will be more convenient to only have to get one set of filters, etc. if I get another Dream Station.

I was partly wondering if there was a new line because my husband may be having a sleep study soon, and one always likes to know about the latest and niftiest. One advantage to having multiple units in the house is that my old ASV (my first Beastie) still works fine and can easily be set for what my husband needs if he needs it while we wait for pulmonology appointments (a two month wait, REALLY?) and for insurance to get around to approving one for him.

[palerider]

We, the masked, will be the last to know.

Well, that's for certain. OTOH, if any of the masked know, it's probable that someone in this group will!

I'm willing to bet that if any of us DO know, we've had to sign a non-disclosure agreement and can't talk about it anyway.

[Thunder Road]

I have not signed a non disclosure agreement but I am aware of the Resmed national sales meeting this week.Rumor has it is the topic of discussion will be among other things the new platform. It has been five years this month that they introduced the Airsense 10 line of devices. I hear that they resmed/philips respironics are looking to hop on the cpap cleaner train. Perhaps they will integrate it into a new platform or manufacture their own in the future. Like them or not on this forum they(SoClean and others) has generated much revenue for those that make them. Seems logical that the CPAP manufacturers would want a piece of that pie. The Dreamstation line was introduced in late 2015 so it would seem like a new platform for them would be the end of 2020. Just my two cents based upon a few people I know on the inside side of that business.Our hosts selling these products have run some pretty good sales of both product lines lately. Could be due to they would want to move some inventory in anticipation of soon to be new product availability.It also wouldn't surprise me to see the Bleep product line be sold to either Resmed or Respironics in the future especially if it gains traction as either one of them can add the necessary resources to mass produce and market it. Just a hunch.This forum has never been better and more helpful than it is right now. It has an abundance of knowledge and information for all levels of experience on this board. I learn something each time I visit it.

[chunkyfrog]

I think I am going to be sick.
Have you ever seen a frog puke?
Google the video.

[Kiralynx]

I think I am going to be sick.
Have you ever seen a frog puke?
Google the video.

I have no desire to, thank you. What does this have to do with a possible new line of machines?

[palerider]

I think I am going to be sick.
Have you ever seen a frog puke?
Google the video.

I have no desire to, thank you. What does this have to do with a possible new line of machines?

This:
> I hear that they resmed/philips respironics are looking to hop on the cpap cleaner train.