Suggestions for Quality Tubing

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Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by jsmit86 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:05 am

I am currently not using the Resmed Heated Hose, but have switched to basic tubing.
I have purchased both slim tubes, and standard diameter tubes.
An issue that I have had, is having the tube develop a tear at the ends where the tube goes into the connector.

I know that there is always going to be some flexing in that area. I may try wrapping something like stretch seal tape to reinforce that area, but I have read comments on the board here where folks have been using the same tube for over a year.

The Resmed Heated hose seemed to last many months (unless my cat got it!). Not sure if a Resmed brand basic hose is any better than the generics.

Can I get some suggestions for quality hoses? If anyone has had long use from any on Amazon, that would be convenient. I can also order from cpap.com the next time I get a large enough order to make the shipping make sense.

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by Zomby Woof » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:35 am

TLDR; you should expect a couple of years trouble-free performance from Resmed 'standard' hoses.

I am surprised that you've had trouble with Resmed 'standard' tubing.

In my 4+ years of CPAP therapy I have used only two (2) Resmed standard tubes in toto.
I replaced the first after 2 years just because I thought I should. The second tube was surplanted
by a Climateline Heated hose that came with my new AirCurve VAuto last month.

The sole change in performance I noticed: the rubber connector endpieces lost some of their stretch
and made the connections less secure. One of my wife's elastic hair bands doubled over the connector
restored like-new connector strength.

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by squid13 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:38 am

I wrap all my ends on tubing with brown medical stretch wrap.

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by chunkyfrog » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:42 am

Diuring the first month on cpap, I washed my hose, mask, and tank every day.
Once I realized this was hard on the equipment, I adopted a more reasonable schedule--(rarely).
Repeatedly detaching and reattaching the hose is bad for it.

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by Goofproof » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:20 pm

I don't wrap then, but long ago I learned how not to put unnecessary wear and tear on equipment, mainly because I was the one that had to make things right. Jim

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by Muse-Inc » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:11 pm

I have been using my original standard hoses since 2007 (came with my Escape, fit my S8 and S9). I made a microfleece cover for them. I seldom unplug it. The ends are getting worn so I ordered from Amazon: 2 hoses for like $9.
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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by jsmit86 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:50 pm

Zomby Woof wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:35 am
TLDR; you should expect a couple of years trouble-free performance from Resmed 'standard' hoses.

I am surprised that you've had trouble with Resmed 'standard' tubing....

Actually, the main issue I had was my cat chewing on Resmed Climateline hoses.
I think I did have one tear once early on, after trying to dry it by swinging around like a lasso!
That one was totally my fault. I started using the machine to blow air through it after that.
I have not actually had a Resmed brand standard hose. I may try that. If you search Resmed on Amazon, you get a bunch of generic hoses.

Right now, I'm using my Z2 Auto until I get my Resmed replacement unit. Long story, but they attempted a repair, got it back, and not properly fixed, so waiting a couple more weeks to get the unit back.
The Z2 is OK for travel and temp use, but of course you cannot use the climateline hose on that unit. I still have a couple of spares, but I've only been getting a month or so out of the generic hoses. The slim ones I have were cheap... 3 for less than $20, and they tend to remember they way they were folded in shipment.
I had somewhat better luck with the standard 19mm hose, but it did develop a tear by the mask end after about 45 days.

I do need to disconnect it and store it every day or the cat will chew a hole through it.

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by palerider » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:52 pm

jsmit86 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:05 am
I am currently not using the Resmed Heated Hose, but have switched to basic tubing.
I have purchased both slim tubes, and standard diameter tubes.
An issue that I have had, is having the tube develop a tear at the ends where the tube goes into the connector.

I know that there is always going to be some flexing in that area. I may try wrapping something like stretch seal tape to reinforce that area, but I have read comments on the board here where folks have been using the same tube for over a year.

The Resmed Heated hose seemed to last many months (unless my cat got it!). Not sure if a Resmed brand basic hose is any better than the generics.

Can I get some suggestions for quality hoses? If anyone has had long use from any on Amazon, that would be convenient. I can also order from cpap.com the next time I get a large enough order to make the shipping make sense.
What are you doing to your hoses to tear them up so fast?
I've got a generic 10 foot tube I got from directhomemedical five years ago. no holes, no tears.

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by jsmit86 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:08 pm

palerider wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:52 pm
jsmit86 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:05 am
I am currently not using the Resmed Heated Hose, but have switched to basic tubing.
I have purchased both slim tubes, and standard diameter tubes.
An issue that I have had, is having the tube develop a tear at the ends where the tube goes into the connector.

I know that there is always going to be some flexing in that area. I may try wrapping something like stretch seal tape to reinforce that area, but I have read comments on the board here where folks have been using the same tube for over a year.

The Resmed Heated hose seemed to last many months (unless my cat got it!). Not sure if a Resmed brand basic hose is any better than the generics.

Can I get some suggestions for quality hoses? If anyone has had long use from any on Amazon, that would be convenient. I can also order from cpap.com the next time I get a large enough order to make the shipping make sense.
What are you doing to your hoses to tear them up so fast?
I've got a generic 10 foot tube I got from directhomemedical five years ago. no holes, no tears.
I don't think that I am doing anything out of the ordinary to cause the tear. I sleep on my side, and the tube is routed up over the top of a pillow and then back to the night stand to the machine. I do turn over from time to time, generally while awake. The hose does flex a bit when that happens.
Since I never had this exact issue with the Resmed ClimateLine tubes, I think some of the issue may just be related to the cheap generic tubes I purchased on Amazon.
While most of the reviews were good, there are a few posts showing the same issue I had, with pic of the tear.

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by Zomby Woof » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:16 pm

jsmit86 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:50 pm

Actually, the main issue I had was my cat chewing on Resmed Climateline hoses.

I do need to disconnect it and store it every day or the cat will chew a hole through it.
So not really a hose problem so much as a cat problem.

Your cat may be bored or it may find the soft hoses enjoyable to chew.
Perhaps what is needed is a way to make your hoses less appetizing to your cat :D

Some cat gurus suggest "using lemon, cayenne, rosemary, or another scent that cats find unappealing"
to deter them from their favorite chew toy - your nosal hose!

t would be easy, and seemingly safe, to make an essential oil-and-water solution then spray it
on your hose to test the theory.

Best of luck!

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by Pugsy » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:19 pm

It has been my experience over the years and seeing lots of donated hoses both brand name and generic....
Seems like brand name hoses are maybe a little more flexible in general...generic hoses a little more "stiff"....maybe the more flexible name brand hoses just bend and flex better because of the flexibility and the stiffer hoses just get more easily worn with movement because of the stress of stiffer stuff having to move a bit.

I dunno...just my opinion. I have used a generic hose on a rare occasion but only briefly....I need and want the added flexibility of the name brand hoses.
I have never torn a hose though...never and I have one S9 heated hose with well over 10K hours of use on it...it saw 3 different S9 machines. Got retired only because I switched to the AirSense model machine.
And I toss and turn all night long so it always gets moved around a lot.

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by ChicagoGranny » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:37 pm

jsmit86 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:50 pm
the main issue I had was my cat chewing on Resmed Climateline hoses
jsmit86 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:50 pm
I think I did have one tear once early on, after trying to dry it by swinging around like a lasso!
There's your problem - you are doing it backward. You should leave the hose alone and wash the cat and swing it over your head to dry.

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by Goofproof » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:42 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:37 pm
jsmit86 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:50 pm
the main issue I had was my cat chewing on Resmed Climateline hoses
jsmit86 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:50 pm
I think I did have one tear once early on, after trying to dry it by swinging around like a lasso!
There's your problem - you are doing it backward. You should leave the hose alone and wash the cat and swing it over your head to dry.
Or go on Amazon, order a toothless, clawless cat, or maybe a door on your bedroom with a automatic closer. Jim
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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by Zomby Woof » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:42 pm

Harsh but no-doubt effective Granny :lol:

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Re: Suggestions for Quality Tubing

Post by jimbud » Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:43 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:37 pm
jsmit86 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:50 pm
the main issue I had was my cat chewing on Resmed Climateline hoses
jsmit86 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:50 pm
I think I did have one tear once early on, after trying to dry it by swinging around like a lasso!
There's your problem - you are doing it backward. You should leave the hose alone and wash the cat and swing it over your head to dry.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You have done it again.
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