Ot: names

[palerider]

one of my kids turns 30 this month.

Only 30?

[chunkyfrog]

My oldest turns 49 in April.

[zonker]

My oldest turns 49 in April.

"my" oldest turned 50 in december.

i have it as "my" because she is my step daughter.

but i DID help raise her.

[zonker]

Btw, I was touting you yesterday as being much younger than palerider!!! - - Now we have some 'splaining to do!!!

that's the question, all right. shortly before you got here, i made some joke about being an old guy. palerider repeated it back to me, slightly altered. i don't remember how it transpired, but i told him i was 64 and then asked if he could call me(whatever old codger thing i said). he replied by saying sure.

so i just assumed he was younger than me. now with the talk of ancient computers, i'm not so sure.

either way, i'm not losing sleep over it!

[palerider]

Btw, I was touting you yesterday as being much younger than palerider!!! - - Now we have some 'splaining to do!!!

that's the question, all right. shortly before you got here, i made some joke about being an old guy. palerider repeated it back to me, slightly altered. i don't remember how it transpired, but i told him i was 64 and then asked if he could call me(whatever old codger thing i said). he replied by saying sure.

so i just assumed he was younger than me. now with the talk of ancient computers, i'm not so sure.

either way, i'm not losing sleep over it!

Not a lot younger, but a few years. I remember sitting in front of the black and white TV and watching Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon, if that helps date me (and no, you can't take a core sample to count the rings.)

[chunkyfrog]

Thanks to my cpap, I have trouble believing I am well over 50.
I feel pretty darn good . . .

[dogsarelife]

A friend of ours had a bird that would perfectly mimic those dial up handshake tones. I remember going from 1200 to 2400 baud and then higher. It was so screaming fast we could upload and download packets so much faster and save on ld phone bills of course we didn't care how much we were paying for those modems. probably a lot more than the phone bills.

that's so funny about the bird!

Cynmatthes, or palerider or anyone else, do you remember a book that talked about the early days of hacking? I think it started out talking about two teenage guys who realized they could mimic tones to fool the phone company (one by whistling and then the other via a whistle from a cereal box if I remember right) and then they moved on to mimicking dial up tones and then hacking the internet. It was wild how internet security was nonexistent and the book said that they were able to get into government or bank information (and even maybe some top secret areas) using something like username: guest and password: guest1234 (or some variation of that). I'm not sure but I think some ended up in jail and some are possibly on probation for life now.

And yes I remember oregon trail and dial-ups! I mostly just let my cousin use the computer though.

some thoughts on usernames. I like puns and assuming your name rhymes with 'in' so these are just for fun!

logs-cyn (some interplay between sleep, programming and your first name)
incyndiary
sleeps-cyn

um..that's all I got. haha.

[chunkyfrog]

. Duplicate post. Sorry, kids.

[palerider]

Cynmatthes, or palerider or anyone else, do you remember a book that talked about the early days of hacking? I think it started out talking about two teenage guys who realized they could mimic tones to fool the phone company (one by whistling and then the other via a whistle from a cereal box if I remember right) and then they moved on to mimicking dial up tones and then hacking the internet. It was wild how internet security was nonexistent and the book said that they were able to get into government or bank information (and even maybe some top secret areas) using something like username: guest and password: guest1234 (or some variation of that). I'm not sure but I think some ended up in jail and some are possibly on probation for life now.

You mean this guy: https://telephone-museum.org/telephone- ... n-whistle/

[Dog Slobber]

Cynmatthes, or palerider or anyone else, do you remember a book that talked about the early days of hacking? I think it started out talking about two teenage guys who realized they could mimic tones to fool the phone company (one by whistling and then the other via a whistle from a cereal box if I remember right) and then they moved on to mimicking dial up tones and then hacking the internet. It was wild how internet security was nonexistent and the book said that they were able to get into government or bank information (and even maybe some top secret areas) using something like username: guest and password: guest1234 (or some variation of that). I'm not sure but I think some ended up in jail and some are possibly on probation for life now.

And yes I remember oregon trail and dial-ups! I mostly just let my cousin use the computer though.

some thoughts on usernames. I like puns and assuming your name rhymes with 'in' so these are just for fun!

Out of the Inner Circle
https://www.amazon.com/Out-Inner-Circle ... 0914845365

[dogsarelife]

You mean this guy: https://telephone-museum.org/telephone- ... n-whistle/

Interesting! thanks for sharing that. It must have been that guy, but I had no idea of the connection to Apple. <Files away this nugget of trivia for my future dream Jeopardy appearance>

[dogsarelife]

Out of the Inner Circle
https://www.amazon.com/Out-Inner-Circle ... 0914845365

Could be! I remember - and this is so very unhelpful haha - a book with a black cover and maybe some accents of bright pink/neon green 0s and 1s (you know, to make it look like the book was going through the matrix or something). I guess it's possible they updated the cover since then. I also thought the book I read so long ago ended up tracing the exploits of 5 or 6 hackers, as opposed to just one, and traced it as close to 'present day' as possible (would have been the late 90s when I read the book). I'll probably never find it, but maybe if I search through 'similar titles' via Amazon I can get closer. Thanks Dog Slobber!

[palerider]

You mean this guy: https://telephone-museum.org/telephone- ... n-whistle/

Interesting! thanks for sharing that. It must have been that guy, but I had no idea of the connection to Apple. <Files away this nugget of trivia for my future dream Jeopardy appearance>

I knew that Jobs guy was no good

[babydinosnoreless]

Ok you guys/gals win. I don't remember the moon landing. My husband does, but I was just too little. So babydino maybe ? I am the youngest of the old dinosaur group and yes I am over the 50 mark too.

[babydinosnoreless]

A friend of ours had a bird that would perfectly mimic those dial up handshake tones. I remember going from 1200 to 2400 baud and then higher. It was so screaming fast we could upload and download packets so much faster and save on ld phone bills of course we didn't care how much we were paying for those modems. probably a lot more than the phone bills.

that's so funny about the bird!

Cynmatthes, or palerider or anyone else, do you remember a book that talked about the early days of hacking? I think it started out talking about two teenage guys who realized they could mimic tones to fool the phone company (one by whistling and then the other via a whistle from a cereal box if I remember right) and then they moved on to mimicking dial up tones and then hacking the internet. It was wild how internet security was nonexistent and the book said that they were able to get into government or bank information (and even maybe some top secret areas) using something like username: guest and password: guest1234 (or some variation of that). I'm not sure but I think some ended up in jail and some are possibly on probation for life now.

And yes I remember oregon trail and dial-ups! I mostly just let my cousin use the computer though.

some thoughts on usernames. I like puns and assuming your name rhymes with 'in' so these are just for fun!

logs-cyn (some interplay between sleep, programming and your first name)
incyndiary
sleeps-cyn

um..that's all I got. haha.

Incyndiary - thats cute and they are all clever. . I knew I would get good responses if I asked here!