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Garylee
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New Machine

Post by Garylee » Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:49 pm

I just got a new Resmed Aircurve 10. This is my third or fourth machine. All of the others were great machines. I would sleep all night and wake up feeling good. With this machine, I don't sleep sound at night, the water tank dries up in five or six hours, and I wake up tired, with a dry mouth and a dry throat. I called the people that sold this unit and they won't call me back, I called Resmed and they won't help. Question - does anyone know where I can get a motor for my old Respironics System One Unit? It was a great machine. Thank you

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Re: New Machine

Post by D.H. » Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:56 pm

If you must have a Respironics System One Unit, you can get a used one from https://www.secondwindcpap.com/. That would probably be less expensive (and simpler) than trying to reapit the one you have. You can also get a DreamStation if you;re a Repsironics enthusiast. At first I was running out of water, but that seems to be resolved now (not sure why).

However, I wonder if your settings are not correct.

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Re: New Machine

Post by Garylee » Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:45 pm

Thank you for replying.

I just don't have a thousand dollars to buy another machine.

I don't know anything about my settings. I thought these machines came preset.

Thank you again

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Re: New Machine

Post by zorki1c » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:24 pm

You need to have someone familiar with cpap tp check the settings you may just need to adjust the humidity. I have the Resmed A10 and can go several nights withoutadding water and we live in an arid climate. I would drown if mine used atank of water in one night.

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Re: New Machine

Post by D.H. » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:17 am

First of all, a used machine would cost you considerably less that $1000.

Secondly, while your pressure is supposed to be preset by the DME, but it's not always set to the proper prescription. Sometimes, the prescription determined from your most recent sleep study might not be ideal. It's only one night's experience under stressful conditions (you're wired up, you're being watched, and you're not in you own bed).

Third point is that the amount of water used is controlled by a lot of factors. Some of the factors are the microclimate on your side of the bedroom, your pressure setting (higher pressure will use more water all other factors being equal), the mask you're using, and the leak rate.

My last point is that the humidity can be adjusted to your comfort, even if you're "locked out" of adjusting the pressure (you're never really locked out, but that's another topic).

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Re: New Machine

Post by bonjour » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:38 am

A couple of Questions
You said an Aircurve 10, that is a product line with several models. Which do you have?

CPAP choice to treat OSA, CA, obstructive or pulmonary restriction
The Auto CPAP such as the AirSense 10 AutoSet is typically the initial machine of choice for treatment of obstructive apnea and hypopnea

Just to clarify The VAUTO, ASV and the ST are all BiLevel machines for treating three different conditions, they are NOT interchangeable. They are not a choice between the three to treat a single condition.

They should be chosen to treat the specific condition that the user has,

To treat obstructive apnea and minor hypopnea and for most initial treatments a standard Auto CPAP such as AirSense AutoSet (or for her) is appropriate.
To treat obstructive apnea and hypopnea, and a standard Auto CPAP is insufficient the treatment of choice is the Aircurve 10 Vauto (has higher pressure and greater Pressure Support (PS) (similar to EPR) available
To treat central apnea, the only appropriate therapy would be the Aircurve 10 ASV
To treat obstructive or pulmonary restriction including hypoventilation, would be the Aircurve 10 ST

Why are you using a bilevel instead of a CPAP? What underlying issues resulted in that happening?
Can you powerup your old machine and get the settings from there?

There are several here that can help you titrate out settings, but we would need to know what we are trying to fix. The settings for the VAuto would be vastly different than the settings for an ASV.

It would be a tremendous assist if you had Sleephead loaded. You could check your settings on your last machine that way and that would help on what your settings should be on your new. Sleepyhead will also let you and us see the results you get overnight and as such provide valuable insight on any tweaks that likely will be needed.

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Re: New Machine

Post by Garylee » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:34 am

Thank you, I sure do appreciate you responding, however, I have no idea what you are talking about. I have been using a CPAP for twelve years and I have never seen any part of my study, nor do I know anything about my settings. I have never had problems before.

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Re: New Machine

Post by D.H. » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:46 am

To the OP:

If you got your new CPAP through insurance (at least if you're in the U.S.), you had a prescription which was for a specific pressure (or pressure range) setting. Presumably, that was based on a study and/or feedback from your prior machine. For most current machines, the pressure is displayed on the machine. Of course, if the ramp is engaged, you won't see the operating pressure until it is reached. Depending upon the condition of your old machine (assuming it's safe to turn it on), you might be able to get this display, even if it's not blowing.

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Re: New Machine

Post by zonker » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:47 am

Garylee wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:49 pm
I just got a new Resmed Aircurve 10. This is my third or fourth machine. All of the others were great machines. I would sleep all night and wake up feeling good. With this machine, I don't sleep sound at night, the water tank dries up in five or six hours, and I wake up tired, with a dry mouth and a dry throat. I called the people that sold this unit and they won't call me back, I called Resmed and they won't help. Question - does anyone know where I can get a motor for my old Respironics System One Unit? It was a great machine. Thank you
i don't know that they have the motor or if they sell parts. (pretty helpful, huh? :lol: ) but you might want to try these guys to see-

https://acbio.com/cpap-repair/

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Re: New Machine

Post by Okie bipap » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:39 pm

For the last several years you have been using various machines without ever learning how to make changes to them. It isn't hard to make changes to these machines. If you are running out of water at night, simply change to humidity level to a lower setting. To make this change, Push in the large round button on the front of the machine. The "My Options" portion of the screen will be lit up. Push the large, round button again. This will bring up the options that can be changed without changing any of your therapy values. Rotate the large button until "Humidity" is highlighted. Rotate the button to the left to a lower number.

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Re: New Machine

Post by Garylee » Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:35 pm

To try to answer your questions -

My new machine is a Resmed Aircurve 10 VAuto.

The heater setting is a 2. A setting of 1 gives no humidity.

My pressure setting is 9.0 on the old machine.

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Re: New Machine

Post by Okie bipap » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:28 pm

and we never My wife and I use the same machine. We both run high pressure (over 17 cm) and we never run out of water. I normally sleep from six to seven hours, and she sleeps 8 to 9 hours a night. You might try running a humidifier in your bedroom and see if that helps cut down on the amount of water you use.

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Re: New Machine

Post by LSAT » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:45 pm

This conversation reminds me of a friend...He has used CPAP for about 12-13 years. He is on his 3rd machine. HE has always had autoset machines but has always used a fixed pressure if 10. He has never had his pressure checked since his original sleep study. He always insists that his doctor says he's doing great About 6 months ago he brought me his SD card and I put it into Sleepyhead. His AHI was averaging about 5-6 with his fixed 10. I convinced him to change the pressure to 10/20. A couple weeks later I read his SD card again and he was averaging 2-3. I don't understand these people that know they will be using this machine for the rest of their life and yet they refuse to learn the basics on how it operates.

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Re: New Machine

Post by palerider » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:16 pm

LSAT wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:45 pm
I don't understand these people that know they will be using this machine for the rest of their life and yet they refuse to learn the basics on how it operates.
"Ignorance is bliss".

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Re: New Machine

Post by zonker » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:23 pm

palerider wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:16 pm
LSAT wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:45 pm
I don't understand these people that know they will be using this machine for the rest of their life and yet they refuse to learn the basics on how it operates.
"Ignorance is bliss".
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