Auto CPAP without a sleep study?

[igotsuckeredtoo]

If air pressure is 14 psi at sea level how is it we are not being hurt by it when we go to the shore? BTW I did indicate I was not aware of what mode of measurement was used for sleep apnea CPAP.
I used an incorrect acronym but I was not wrong and did not provide false information. The industrial version of CPAP is PAPR its the same thing in a portable unit with the air run through a filter. The commonality is the constant pressure of ambient air pumped though the mask.

I hope you feel better soon.

[palerider]

If air pressure is 14 psi at sea level how is it we are not being hurt by it when we go to the shore?

You need to understand the difference in absolute pressure, and relative pressure.

Absolute pressure is the pressure compared to zero (vacuum). Relative pressure is the difference between pressure in a container, and the air pressure around you, or the difference in pressure between two different areas.

You're not hurt by the 14psi at sea level because that's a zero *relative* pressure. The pressure inside your lungs and outside it is the same.

CPAPs operate on a fraction of one PSI relative pressure, a fraction of one PSI more in your lungs that outside of them.

BTW I did indicate I was not aware of what mode of measurement was used for sleep apnea CPAP.

Then you shouldn't say anything, because all that does is confuse and mislead people, it helps *nobody*.

I used an incorrect acronym but I was not wrong and did not provide false information.

"false"? maybe not, depending on how one might look at it. "incorrect", certainly. "misleading" yes. "worthwhile" no.

The industrial version of CPAP is PAPR its the same thing in a portable unit with the air run through a filter. The commonality is the constant pressure of ambient air pumped though the mask.

PAPR and CPAP are not anywhere near the same.

A PAPR is not a true positive-pressure device because it can be over-breathed when inhaling.--http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idep ... /papr.html

Please, just stop while you're behind.

There's literally nothing you've stated in this thread that's helpful to *anybody* on cpap, and very little that's even accurate.

I hope you feel better soon.

Your attempts at snide comment notwithstanding, I feel fine, thank you very much. I also sleep well.

[chunkyfrog]

This reminds me--I have not had my margarita yet!
Checking out now, so MY drunken rambling will not endanger others.
(Hint, hint)

[igotsuckeredtoo]

I guess you win.
http://www-users.med.cornell.edu/~spon/ ... essure.htm

I really do hope you feel better. It is not a snide remark. You are the first poster I noticed and the one who stands out for the same reason. At first it seemed humorous now what I see is that you are very angry and in need of control. That usually indicates someone is not feeling well.

Peace

[palerider]

I guess you win.

I don't care about "winning", I care about not misleading people, and wasting their time, or possibly hurting them with misinformation.

I really do hope you feel better. It is not a snide remark. You are the first poster I noticed and the one who stands out for the same reason. At first it seemed humorous now what I see is that you are very angry and in need of control. That usually indicates someone is not feeling well.

The fact that I have no patience with people that yammer on about things they don't know anything about doesn't, in any way, mean that I don't "feel well", your attempts at pop psychology notwithstanding.

So far, you've been very quick to talk about things you don't know anything about, and this is just another thing that fits in that category.

[palerider]

you are very angry

Well, that's one thing you're right about, I am angry.

I'm angry that this forum even has to exist, because the medical community does such a poor job taking care of sleep apnea patients.
I'm angry that insurance companies do their best to screw us over.
I'm angry that our government doesn't care more about it's citizens.
I'm angry about what people are doing to the planet.
I'm angry that people that know what they're talking about have to waste their time arguing with people that mouth off without having a clue.
I'm angry that road rage seems to be the norm, likely since before the automobile was even invented.
I'm angry that we live in a police state and all that's required to murder someone if you've got a badge is that they be some color other than white.
I'm not angry, but am disappointed that I didn't win the lotto.

So, yeah, there *are* things I'm angry about.... but by and large, I'm pretty laid back. There are people here that know me outside the forum, they know me... you don't.

cheers.

[LinkC]

Somebody needs a nap...

[palerider]

Somebody needs a nap...

Have a nice nap.