CPAP or AutoSet

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CPAP or AutoSet

Post by Tigger » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:24 am

I am currently prescribed to use my AirSense 10 with straight CPAP at 7.0 CWP. I am wondering if moving to the AutoSet configuration would be better? If so what should the low/high settings be for the AutoSet? I currently am not having any issues with the straight CPAP, just wondering if there is any benefit to go to AutoSet?
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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by Dog Slobber » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:01 am

CPAP attempts to be a one size fits all and unfortunately many people's sleep comes in multiple sizes. Auto can adjust for that.
  • Sleeping position. ie sleeping on back often requires more pressure than sleeping on side.
  • Steeping stage. ie some sleep stages require more or less pressure.
  • Alcohol, drugs or medication may change the optimal pressure.
  • Pressure needs may change over time.
  • Providing minimal required pressure can help with comfort or aerophagia.
Insisting on an AutoSet device was the best move I made, moving to APAP from constant pressure was the second best.
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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by LSAT » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:18 am

Tigger wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:24 am
I am currently prescribed to use my AirSense 10 with straight CPAP at 7.0 CWP. I am wondering if moving to the AutoSet configuration would be better? If so what should the low/high settings be for the AutoSet? I currently am not having any issues with the straight CPAP, just wondering if there is any benefit to go to AutoSet?
Thanks,
What has your AHI been at 7?..If it an't broke..don't fix it, unless you have some issues.

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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:25 am

Tigger wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:24 am
7.0 CWP
7.0 is a very low pressure. If it maintains a low AHI and stops snoring, there would be no need to change it.

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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by Stom » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:30 am

Hard for anyone to give anything other than generic comments without data. If you want to know what your machine is doing for you, and if there are events that APAP might treat that CPAP is not, follow the forum sticky links to download the free multi-platform Sleephead software, import data from your machine and post charts as shown to the forum.
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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:03 pm

Stom wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:30 am
Hard for anyone to give anything other than generic comments without data. If you want to know what your machine is doing for you, and if there are events that APAP might treat that CPAP is not, follow the forum sticky links to download the free multi-platform Sleephead software, import data from your machine and post charts as shown to the forum.
He's using a straight CPAP setting and a low setting at that. He can check his AHI on his display. If it is acceptably low and he is having no other problems, there would be no need to bother with Sleepyhead.

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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by Stom » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:28 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:03 pm
Stom wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:30 am
Hard for anyone to give anything other than generic comments without data. If you want to know what your machine is doing for you, and if there are events that APAP might treat that CPAP is not, follow the forum sticky links to download the free multi-platform Sleephead software, import data from your machine and post charts as shown to the forum.
He's using a straight CPAP setting and a low setting at that. He can check his AHI on his display. If it is acceptably low and he is having no other problems, there would be no need to bother with Sleepyhead.
Yes, you did offer a conditional statement in your post. "If". It's generic advice with a conditional. But you have to agree we need more data. For you that data is AHI. You could set up your conditional statement with the AHI you think is sufficient for him to stick with CPAP and to never look at his chart data.
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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:36 pm

Stom wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:28 pm
You could set up your conditional statement with the AHI you think is sufficient for him to stick with CPAP and to never look at his chart data.
You could take a hike, while I wait for a response from the OP.

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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by Stom » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:23 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:36 pm
You could take a hike, while I wait for a response from the OP.
You didn't actually ask for a response from the OP. Nor did you specify what would count as an AHI you think is low enough for the CPAP to be unworthy of detailed data analysis:
ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:25 am
7.0 is a very low pressure. If it maintains a low AHI and stops snoring, there would be no need to change it.
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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by ChicagoGranny » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:58 pm

Stom wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:23 pm
You didn't actually ask for a response from the OP.
Try to keep up. It was already requested.

You didn't take that hike. It might do you some good to take one.

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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by palerider » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:58 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:36 pm
a troll wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:28 pm
You could set up your conditional statement with the AHI you think is sufficient for him to stick with CPAP and to never look at his chart data.
You could take a hike, while I wait for a response from the OP.
No no, Granny... Troll knows *everything*. (and listens to nothing).

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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by palerider » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:00 pm

Tigger wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:24 am
I am currently prescribed to use my AirSense 10 with straight CPAP at 7.0 CWP. I am wondering if moving to the AutoSet configuration would be better? If so what should the low/high settings be for the AutoSet? I currently am not having any issues with the straight CPAP, just wondering if there is any benefit to go to AutoSet?
Thanks,
I'd recommend moving to autoset simply because it gives you better response to changing needs. If you do, I'd suggest starting out with a Min 7, max 20 pressure. (the max is irrelevant for most people).

You may be doing Ok now (AHI under 2) but things change...

I was doing fine with an Elite (fixed pressure) as my second machine, then I got lazy, stopped checking the data regularly, started feeling bad... pulled the data, and saw my AHI had been going up for the last few weeks...

So I moved to an auto machine.

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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by zonker » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:01 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:36 pm
Stom wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:28 pm
You could set up your conditional statement with the AHI you think is sufficient for him to stick with CPAP and to never look at his chart data.
You could take a hike, while I wait for a response from the OP.
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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by Stom » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:17 pm

palerider wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:58 pm
No no, Granny... Troll knows *everything*. (and listens to nothing).
Ah, it's the name-caller trying to call other people the thing he's doing.

Once again, you don't actually dispute the content of my post because, it seems, you actually agree with it. But you still try to use the post you agree with to attack me personally. Classy. Soooo classy.

Any other personal attacks on me by you should be in a new thread so you don't derail this one any more than you already have.
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Re: CPAP or AutoSet

Post by palerider » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:29 pm

a troll wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:17 pm
palerider wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:58 pm
No no, Granny... Troll knows *everything*. (and listens to nothing).
Ah, it's the name-caller trying to call other people the thing he's doing.

Once again, you don't actually dispute the content of my post because, it seems, you actually agree with it.
Oh, you delusional child.

I rarely agree with anything you post.

You're the classic, ignorant twerp that's read some things but has no understanding.

I don't bother refuting your garbage, because your head is impenetrable. You think you know everything, and that everybody else is wrong, so it's a waste of time to try and educate you on anything.

For example:
a troll wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:30 am
Hard for anyone to give anything other than generic comments without data. If you want to know what your machine is doing for you, and if there are events that APAP might treat that CPAP is not, follow the forum sticky links to download the free multi-platform Sleephead software, import data from your machine and post charts as shown to the forum.
Actually, people with more experience have already weighed in, and stated the obvious.
"If it maintains a low AHI and stops snoring, there would be no need to change it."
" What has your AHI been at 7?..If it an't broke..don't fix it, unless you have some issues."
"CPAP attempts to be a one size fits all and unfortunately many people's sleep comes in multiple sizes. Auto can adjust for that.

Sleeping position. ie sleeping on back often requires more pressure than sleeping on side.
Steeping stage. ie some sleep stages require more or less pressure.
Alcohol, drugs or medication may change the optimal pressure.
Pressure needs may change over time.
Providing minimal required pressure can help with comfort or aerophagia.

Insisting on an AutoSet device was the best move I made, moving to APAP from constant pressure was the second best."

You didn't address the OP's question, you instead decided to show everybody how 'smert' you are, as if the OP had asked for help, instead of general advice.

Then, when called on it, you argued... as usual.

Now, it's likely that everything from your post down will be moved into the 'flight club' thread that was discussed the last time you decided to be yourself.

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