Accurate measure of AHI without Cpap

[stcrim]

Is there anything that will accurately measure breathing events on nights I don't use a Cpap??? I have a pulse oximeter but it really doesn't appear to be very accurate. Maybe there is a better brand - or something??? -s-

[Fetou]

You can get a home sleep study for ~$500.

If you generally require high pressures you could maybe get a baseline reading by setting a data-enabled machine at 4cm pressure and getting a manual analysis of the data.

Why do you need to know?

[Goofproof]

A full Sleep Study, it's also the standard. Jim

[HoseCrusher]

You need something like this...

https://clevemed.com/wp-content/uploads ... pphire.pdf

[Wulfman...]

Is there anything that will accurately measure breathing events on nights I don't use a Cpap??? I have a pulse oximeter but it really doesn't appear to be very accurate. Maybe there is a better brand - or something??? -s-

It's quite simple........
DON'T sleep without your CPAP!!!
Then you won't have to wonder about measuring your "breathing events" with something else or worry that you'll die in your sleep (from not using the CPAP).

Den

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[palerider]

Is there anything that will accurately measure breathing events on nights I don't use a Cpap??? I have a pulse oximeter but it really doesn't appear to be very accurate. Maybe there is a better brand - or something??? -s-

Stop not using your cpap.

Pusleox isn't a way to measure AHI.

[stcrim]

Sort of a long story - my pressure should be 13 (and I still have an AHI of close to 5.0) however through a method I've developed I have been able to reduce my pressure to 4 and have an AHI to 0.0 with a top of 0.3. A pressure of 6 is more comfortable so I keep it there. I frequently us the method and no Cpap - but I want to know what's going on. Using the Cpap at 4 is still using pressure so it doesn't really tell me what's happening when there is no pressure. I do snore when I'm using the method only but it is mild.

It's really very simple - first I tape my mouth shut with one piece of paper tape horizontal. Then I cut two pieces of Nexcare 1 inch waterproof tape to a little longer than an inch. By eyeballing it I mark the center and use a leather punch to make a 4 mm holes in each.

Takes a little getting use to but dramatically reduces your breathing which I guess reduces the risk of throat or nasal collapse. The idea came to me after studying but never quite getting the hang of Buteyko breathing. The idea there is if you breathe less you are less likely to suck your nose or throat closed.

[palerider]

Sort of a long story - my pressure should be 13 (and I still have an AHI of close to 5.0) however through a method I've developed I have been able to reduce my pressure to 4 and have an AHI to 0.0 with a top of 0.3. A pressure of 6 is more comfortable so I keep it there. I frequently us the method and no Cpap - but I want to know what's going on. Using the Cpap at 4 is still using pressure so it doesn't really tell me what's happening when there is no pressure. I do snore when I'm using the method only but it is mild.

It's really very simple - first I tape my mouth shut with one piece of paper tape horizontal. Then I cut two pieces of Nexcare 1 inch waterproof tape to a little longer than an inch. By eyeballing it I mark the center and use a leather punch to make a 4 mm holes in each.

You... put the pieces of tape over your nose?

Takes a little getting use to but dramatically reduces your breathing which I guess reduces the risk of throat or nasal collapse. The idea came to me after studying but never quite getting the hang of Buteyko breathing. The idea there is if you breathe less you are less likely to suck your nose or throat closed.

I can't even *begin* to explain how utterly WRONG this whole idea is. But, by restricting the openings for air to get into your airway, you're creating *MORE* suction.... and it's typically not suction that's the problem anyway, it's just gravity pulling your airway structures closed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gie2dhqP2c

You're welcome to kill yourself slowly anyway you want, but I caution everybody else that might be reading this:

THE ABOVE IDEA IS CRAZY, DON'T DO IT

Unless you're just trolling.. then... oh, haha

[stcrim]

I have been doing it for years. I don't need to be schooled in what does and doesn't work - I just want to find a way to measure without a Cpap...

[Pugsy]

Sleep study is the only way to know for sure.
Home study would be less expensive obviously.
I don't know of any reliable gadgets that would take the place of a sleep study that measures air flow.
Type III would probably be sufficient for what you are wanting and save a few bucks.

[stcrim]

Pugsy - thank you! When you say Type III, what does that refer to, if I may ask???

[Pugsy]

http://freecpapadvice.com/home-sleep-tests

Home studies can gather different amounts of data...the more data they gather the more they cost.

[palerider]

I have been doing it for years. I don't need to be schooled in what does and doesn't work - I just want to find a way to measure without a Cpap...

Like I said, you're welcome to do whatever YOU want to do to YOU.

My warning wasn't for you, it was for other people who might harm themselves by thinking your idea was a good one.

[ChicagoGranny]

Pugsy - thank you! When you say Type III, what does that refer to, if I may ask???

Type III
Monitoring devices do not record the signals needed to determine sleep stages or sleep disruption. Typically channels include:

Four physiologic variables are measured including:
Two respiratory variables (eg, respiratory movement and airflow)
Cardiac variable (eg, heart rate or an electrocardiogram)
Arterial oxygen saturation
Some devices may have other signals including a monitor to record snoring, detect light, or a means to determine the body position.

[ChicagoGranny]

Here is an example of one of the popular models - https://www.resmed.com/us/en/healthcare ... -plus.html

It's easy to find home testing services online. Cost runs about $250 for one-night test.