? Does the Dream Station Record More Data than the S 9 Elite

[deerslayer]

Since i have switched over to the Dream Station, it has Been Recording more Events i'm not Used to Seeing ?

[ChicagoGranny]

The Dreamstation algorithm responds more slowly to partial airway collapse. You may need to increase your pressure settings. What are your settings?

[deerslayer]

Okay Hmmm.i am starting to have second thoughts about this machine compared to the S9 . Last couple nights have been @11.5, a bump up from script(straight cpap) it is an auto but never had much luck with before(leaks). Comfort level with the S9 was far better. Am wondering if i have any recourse to turn the machine back in since i have only used for a week ?
Actually my old M Series is better than the new one

[ChicagoGranny]

Am wondering if i have any recourse to turn the machine back in since i have only used for a week ?

If you bought it from a local DME, make a mental note of why it is unsatisfactory and carry it back. DMEs get a lot of returned machines. They shouldn't make a big deal over this one.

If you used insurance for the machine and it's still in the rental period, returning or exchanging it should be easy.

[Pugsy]

Due to the different auto adjusting algorithms you probably need a pressure adjustment (upwards a little) to get essentially the same results that you got with the ResMed.
For me it ended up being about a 3 cm more increase the minimum pressure so the Respironics could get to where I sometimes needed only in REM. If it wasn't for the REM needs I could have got by with probably a 1 cm increase in minimum pressure but my REM pressure needs sometimes need pressures around 16 to 18 and with the slower response time the Respironics just needed a bigger head start.

I use 7 inhale (EPR at 3) so exhale at 4 with max to 20 with the ResMed.
To get essentially the same results with the Respironics I needed 10 minimum and Flex of 2 ..so inhale 10 and exhale 8 and I would often see 16 to 18 inhale and thus 14/16 exhale..
I might see the same max pressures on the ResMed but with the lower minimum most of the night (equals comfort) and the machine getting higher faster the AHI stays about the same.
Long term the 95% number are probably about the same as well as the overall averages with the 2 brands.

I have no idea how much more minimum you might need to get the same results as you got with the S9. Might just be 1 cm more...might be a little more.
I don't know if it is worth it to you to even try to figure it out....all depends on which machine you actually prefer to work with.

[deerslayer]

thank you Both !
i miss the EPR Relief with the S9. Marching the PR(whirring noise) machine back to the DME Monday. If they don't want to change Machines will go to the other DME. Monday night would be 7th night. have been reading SD card every night so far. Like most of us, i want therapy to be beneficial & not just go through the motions.

[palerider]

Okay Hmmm.i am starting to have second thoughts about this machine compared to the S9 . Last couple nights have been @11.5, a bump up from script(straight cpap) it is an auto but never had much luck with before(leaks). Comfort level with the S9 was far better. Am wondering if i have any recourse to turn the machine back in since i have only used for a week ?
Actually my old M Series is better than the new one

This is appropriate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzCCgNLya_g

I'd certainly take it back and raise a stink, and see if you can't get it traded in for an AutoSet.

[deerslayer]

Pale Rider "I'd certainly take it back and raise a stink, and see if you can't get it traded in for an AutoSet."

most likely i'll have to call sleep dr.'s nurse & tell my intentions and ask for a different script before i officially return PR machine. If i would have just listened here first
Appreciate y' all

[ChicagoGranny]

most likely i'll have to call sleep dr.'s nurse & tell my intentions and ask for a different script

It depends on what your current script says. If it says Dreamstation, you've got a problem. If it says APAP, not so much of a problem.

[palerider]

Pale Rider "I'd certainly take it back and raise a stink, and see if you can't get it traded in for an AutoSet."

most likely i'll have to call sleep dr.'s nurse & tell my intentions and ask for a different script before i officially return PR machine. If i would have just listened here first
Appreciate y' all

Best of luck to you, I'll keep my figurative fingers crossed!

[deerslayer]

most likely i'll have to call sleep dr.'s nurse & tell my intentions and ask for a different script

It depends on what your current script says. If it says Dreamstation, you've got a problem. If it says APAP, not so much of a problem.

Returning this PR machine this A M virtually painless after touching bases with sleep Dr Nurse . back to the S9 tonight until i get the call to pickup the air sense10 auto

[palerider]

most likely i'll have to call sleep dr.'s nurse & tell my intentions and ask for a different script

It depends on what your current script says. If it says Dreamstation, you've got a problem. If it says APAP, not so much of a problem.

Returning this PR machine this A M virtually painless after touching bases with sleep Dr Nurse . back to the S9 tonight until i get the call to pickup the air sense10 auto

YAY!... to answer the title question... the S9 elite (and the one you're getting) actually records more detailed data than the DS... The Resmed records high rate mask pressure data, and more detailed pressure data... or maybe the pressure control on the resmeds is just more fine... if you look at the pressure traces on a resmed, you'll see it seems to change to all pressures in between min and max... whereas the respironics jumps pressure in steps.

[ChicagoGranny]

air sense10 auto

[deerslayer]

Ahhhh, thank Heaven for a great nights sleep
8+hrs.
Channel Min Med 95% Max
PressureTherapy Pressure (cmH2O)
W-Avg: 11.00 11.00 11.00 11.00 11.00
EPAPExpiratory Pressure (cmH2O)
W-Avg: 8.00 8.00 8.00 8.00 8.00
Minute Vent.Amount of air displaced per minute (L/min)
W-Avg: 6.47 2.50 6.38 8.25 16.50
Resp. RateRate of breaths per minute (Breaths/min)
W-Avg: 15.33 6.40 15.00 19.60 35.40
Flow Limit.Graph showing severity of flow limitations (Severity (0-1))
W-Avg: 0.01 0.00 0.00 0.04 0.60
Leak RateRate of detected mask leakage (L/min)
W-Avg: 7.08 0.00 2.40 26.40 40.80
SnoreGraph displaying snore volume (?)
W-Avg: 0.08 0.00 0.06 0.12 0.30
Insp. TimeTime taken to breathe in (Seconds)
W-Avg: 2.17 0.18 2.14 2.92 6.20
Exp. TimeTime taken to breathe out (Seconds)
W-Avg: 1.84 0.12 1.78 2.84 5.32
Tidal VolumeAmount of air displaced per breath (ml)
W-Avg: 423.82 120.00 420.00 600.00 1280.00

Total time in apnea 00:00:52
Time over leak redline 6.342%
Machine Settings

ModeCPAP Mode CPAP
PressureTherapy Pressure 11.00 cmH2O
EPRResMed Exhale Pressure Relief Full Time
EPR LevelExhale Pressure Relief Level 3cmH2O
RampRamp Enable Off