More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by palerider » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:35 pm

LSAT wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:23 am
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One thing that medical professionals can do it to walk the floors of hospitals and look for patients displaying the obvious signs of Sleep Apnea (loud or irregular snoring and gasping). I don't believe that this is being done. However, since medical providers are already in hospitals, it's a good place to start.
OMG...is this guy real??? :roll:
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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by palerider » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:37 pm

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We need a Sleep Apnea Awareness Month. And a national campaign to help facilitate that awareness.
All you get is a week: Join the National Sleep Foundation in celebrating its annual Sleep Awareness Week, March 11 to 17, 2018.

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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by Goofproof » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:08 pm

Doug_Nightmare wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:05 pm
Scluvsrain wrote:
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We need a Sleep Apnea Awareness Month. And a national campaign to help facilitate that awareness.
March is Sleep Awareness Month.
Doggone! I must have slept through it again! :lol: Jim
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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:14 pm

Once treated, sleeping through it seems to be the most suitable way to celebrate.
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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by D.H. » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:23 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:10 pm
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Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:57 am
We need a Sleep Apnea Awareness Month. And a national campaign to help facilitate that awareness.
Since you only joined in April, you are given a pass for not knowing March is sleep apnea awareness month.

If this happens again next year - 20 lashes with a Slimline CPAP hose.
There's also "Sleeptember."

Link ===> https://www.sleeptember.org/

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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:36 pm

Maybe we should just declare winter "sleep season".

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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by Doug_Nightmare » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:48 pm

Poor sleep habits, too much and too little, are symptomatic of depression, itself symptomatic of Seasonal Affect Disorder.

We Scandinavians self-medicate with ethanol. I live in the largest ethnic Icelander community in the US. Icelanders, Norwegians, Scandinavians all tend to cocoon in the winter that lasts here from Halloween to May Day.
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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by ozzyluvshockey21 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:50 pm

Medical staff is already way overloaded , I don't see this happening.

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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by Mogy » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:51 pm

Before I was diagnosed with OSA l went to emergency to get some drugs for pain that I was having due to passing a kidney stone. They hooked me up to their machines and within an hour I got my drugs. With the drugs in me I thought I'd sleep but the machine kept waking me up due to low oxygen. This must have happened 15 times over the next 2 hours and the nurses came in a couple of times, but there was no mention of sleep apnea. I was released and went home with my prescription for pain meds.
I checked online and it seemed like the most probable reason was sleep apnea but I didn't snore and had no idea that I had sleep apnea. Anyway, I wasn't feeling very good so I went for the home sleep test.
It seems to me that the health care system is leaving it up to the individual. I suspect that my brother has OSA and have told him several times. It is very easy here to get a HST but he doesn't want to believe it so he won't get the test. It will have to wait until he starts to feel worse.
Using weight loss, general exercise, and tongue/throat exercises I managed to get my AHI down to approx 5.
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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:39 pm

Leaving it to the patient--unless that person operates a vehicle for a living.
Sometimes it looks like that . . .

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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by D.H. » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:52 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:
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Leaving it to the patient--unless that person operates a vehicle for a living.
Sometimes it looks like that . . .
As long as you go for a checkup, they don't leave it up to you to notice high blood pressure or diabetes. This is just as prevalent as the latter, but they're still still pretending it doesn't exist or it's very rare.

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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by RiverDave » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:19 pm

In 2007, I went to my GP. In our conversation,I asked if sleep apnea was a possibility. She would not answer and asked me if I thought I had it (insurance reasons, I guess). I said something along the lines of "you're the doctor, you tell me" In short, no reply. Finally talked her into a sleep study. Not all medical folks are aware of sleep apnea or how to deal with it.

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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by zoocrewphoto » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:48 pm

One of the reasons I left my previous doctor is that she failed to suggest sleep apnea.

She had been warning me that my blood pressure was still high with medication. I was at risk of a stroke at an early age. I have the most common features of sleep apnea (small chin, narrow airway, high blood pressure, and over weight). She was also my mom's doctor, and my mom was diagnosed with sleep apnea 20 years earlier. I mean, duh. It should have been super obvious. All she had to ask me was, "do you snore? Do you gasp or snort?" Um, yes.

I knew I had it. I just didn't understand what it meant. I thought it meant that you wake up a lot, and I didn't think I was that bad. I had no idea about the oxygen desaturation and that leading to high blood pressure and stroke. I saw THAT info in a news story on tv. That is when I made an appointment and asked for a sleep study.

I will also mention that between the news story and my appointment, I shared a hotel room with a friend. I warned her that I snore, and she said no problem. The next day, she asked when my appointment was. I asked her if it was that loud. She said no, but it was scary. Nobody had ever told me that my snoring was scary. My sister would yell at me when sharing a hotel room, but nobody told me that I stopped breathing. Just that I was loud.

Also, about a year ago, I saw a news story about bad dreams. They never mentioned sleep apnea. They blamed the chasing dreams on stress. I used to dream of being chased. Many times. But not since cpap. Bad dreams can be your brain's way of making sense of the adrenaline and/or lack of oxygen (drowning, anyone?)

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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by D.H. » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:03 pm

RiverDave wrote:
Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:19 pm
In 2007, I went to my GP. In our conversation,I asked if sleep apnea was a possibility. She would not answer and asked me if I thought I had it (insurance reasons, I guess). I said something along the lines of "you're the doctor, you tell me" In short, no reply. Finally talked her into a sleep study. Not all medical folks are aware of sleep apnea or how to deal with it.
If you go to a doctor and tell her you think that you have Sleep Apnea (or any other condition), it's a fair question for her to ask if you think you have it or why you think you have it. That would help her determine the likelihood. In some cases, it might lead to her possibly suspecting something other than the disease you asked about.

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Re: More aggressive pursuit of the undiagnosed

Post by Goofproof » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:06 pm

I saw it on in a So Clean Ad, before I get the machine I need So Bad, I need to start CPAP. :lol: Jim
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