Chin strap for lips crazy need help
Chin strap for lips crazy need help
51 days using machine.
1st 21 days, hi learning curve & body & mind adjusting
Next 10 days, blissful sleep
Last 20 days, not so hot due to lips bubbling out air &/or air also going into stomach waking me
Occasionally nasal pillow masks pops away from face waking me
Few nites seem good, but tired a lot
DME suggested chin strap which can fit over my lips also because it is 4"& is thin material but have to wake up often to re-adjust it & single head strap.
Tried tape but gets wet as mouth gets super dry
Pulmologist lowered pressure to 10, but still problems
Strap is tight
Different mask? Different headstrap that covers lips too?
Or is there no remedy? (Slidesleeper only with no pillow & i don't snore)
Anyone who has experienced this or has suggestions, I would appreciate it very much!
1st 21 days, hi learning curve & body & mind adjusting
Next 10 days, blissful sleep
Last 20 days, not so hot due to lips bubbling out air &/or air also going into stomach waking me
Occasionally nasal pillow masks pops away from face waking me
Few nites seem good, but tired a lot
DME suggested chin strap which can fit over my lips also because it is 4"& is thin material but have to wake up often to re-adjust it & single head strap.
Tried tape but gets wet as mouth gets super dry
Pulmologist lowered pressure to 10, but still problems
Strap is tight
Different mask? Different headstrap that covers lips too?
Or is there no remedy? (Slidesleeper only with no pillow & i don't snore)
Anyone who has experienced this or has suggestions, I would appreciate it very much!
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Mask: DreamWear Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear (Small and Medium Frame Included) |
Additional Comments: Pressure 4-10cm |
Martha, 75
Diagnosed mild apnea Dec, 2017
Was switched to AirCurve™ 10 S BiLevel Machine with HumidAir™ from CPAP to BIPAP June, 2019
Dreamware Face Mask and Airfit N30i Nasal Mask
Diagnosed mild apnea Dec, 2017
Was switched to AirCurve™ 10 S BiLevel Machine with HumidAir™ from CPAP to BIPAP June, 2019
Dreamware Face Mask and Airfit N30i Nasal Mask
Re: Chin strap for lips crazy need help
I'm following as well. I need to figure out something for same issues with chipmunk cheeks and opening mouth now while sleeping.
10 to 15 cm h20
Re: Chin strap for lips crazy need help
Make one of these. It's the only chin strap that works for me, and I tried 5 different commercial ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkByHPB ... 28&list=WL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkByHPB ... 28&list=WL
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Re: Chin strap for lips crazy need help
Bare with me as this is a little outside the box...
I view my relationship with xPAP from the perspective of ballroom dancing. My partner is my mask and hose. Unlike ballroom dancing my "xPAP partner" really gets into my face, buy under the circumstances, that is OK.
I sleep on my side and rotate from side to side during the night. Each maneuver is rehearsed and practiced to the point where I can do it "in my sleep."
In order to fluidly perform you need to practice. Pick a time to mask up and lay down as if you were going to take a nap. Turn your machine on and get situated on your side. Pause for a moment, then roll over to the other side using a fluid and automatic motion to keep your "partner" on your face and the hose properly situated. Now roll back over to the other side.
Pretty soon you will be able to do a spin without any disruption from your "partner."
If you have the opportunity, explore scuba diving, or fly jets. You can also take up woodworking, paint your house, or paint a car. All of these activity involve wearing masks and they will help you adjust to your xPAP mask.
With practice you will be able to adjust from side to side without knocking your mask off and may even be able to control mouth breathing. You are far enough into this journey to know that it has benefit and just need to fine tune it.
The bottom line is that you need to find a way to manage your "partner" to a point where you are very comfortable with the sleep process with xPAP equipment. My wife and I have spent a lot of time adjusting and now we spoon each night which is our preferred sleep position. We start off with me spooning her and when I roll over she spoons me. This dance goes on all night. We wake up on the morning fully rested and ready to greet the day.
I view my relationship with xPAP from the perspective of ballroom dancing. My partner is my mask and hose. Unlike ballroom dancing my "xPAP partner" really gets into my face, buy under the circumstances, that is OK.
I sleep on my side and rotate from side to side during the night. Each maneuver is rehearsed and practiced to the point where I can do it "in my sleep."
In order to fluidly perform you need to practice. Pick a time to mask up and lay down as if you were going to take a nap. Turn your machine on and get situated on your side. Pause for a moment, then roll over to the other side using a fluid and automatic motion to keep your "partner" on your face and the hose properly situated. Now roll back over to the other side.
Pretty soon you will be able to do a spin without any disruption from your "partner."
If you have the opportunity, explore scuba diving, or fly jets. You can also take up woodworking, paint your house, or paint a car. All of these activity involve wearing masks and they will help you adjust to your xPAP mask.
With practice you will be able to adjust from side to side without knocking your mask off and may even be able to control mouth breathing. You are far enough into this journey to know that it has benefit and just need to fine tune it.
The bottom line is that you need to find a way to manage your "partner" to a point where you are very comfortable with the sleep process with xPAP equipment. My wife and I have spent a lot of time adjusting and now we spoon each night which is our preferred sleep position. We start off with me spooning her and when I roll over she spoons me. This dance goes on all night. We wake up on the morning fully rested and ready to greet the day.
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Additional Comments: Machine is an AirSense 10 AutoSet For Her with Heated Humidifier. |
Last edited by HoseCrusher on Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Chin strap for lips crazy need help
I have been successfully using the Ultimate Chin Strap for 8 years. Is suppresses mouth leaking.
URL is below
URL is below
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Re: Chin strap for lips crazy need help
user jay aitchsee came up with this idea-
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=112758&st=0&sk=t&sd ... i#p1086296
i've used this method since june 2017, i think. at any rate, this works wonderfully well for me. and it's dead cheap.
hope it can help you!
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=112758&st=0&sk=t&sd ... i#p1086296
i've used this method since june 2017, i think. at any rate, this works wonderfully well for me. and it's dead cheap.
hope it can help you!
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Re: Chin strap for lips crazy need help
I've successfully used face tape -aerophagia. anyone have ideas to reduce aerophagia with tape?
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Re: Chin strap for lips crazy need help
Thank you all for responding.
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Mask: DreamWear Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear (Small and Medium Frame Included) |
Additional Comments: Pressure 4-10cm |
Martha, 75
Diagnosed mild apnea Dec, 2017
Was switched to AirCurve™ 10 S BiLevel Machine with HumidAir™ from CPAP to BIPAP June, 2019
Dreamware Face Mask and Airfit N30i Nasal Mask
Diagnosed mild apnea Dec, 2017
Was switched to AirCurve™ 10 S BiLevel Machine with HumidAir™ from CPAP to BIPAP June, 2019
Dreamware Face Mask and Airfit N30i Nasal Mask
Re: Chin strap for lips crazy need help
Even the best chinstrap in the world will not stop you from exhaling through your mouth unless you tape your lips. Try it. Lock your teeth together like a chinstrap would...then exhale through your mouth. Full face mask is the answer but many refuse to try them for some reason.
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Re: Chin strap for lips crazy need help
I use Poli Grip strips to form a dam between my lips to keep my saliva away from the tape. Strips, not paste.Zmartha wrote:.... Tried tape but gets wet as mouth gets super dry.
Google site:cpaptalk.com poli grip
Many discussions on this site. Good luck, Earl
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