Help with Sleepyhead

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Help with Sleepyhead

Post by porkchop6 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:16 pm

Is there a non SD card version of Sleepyhead? I just got a ResMed AirSense10 Autoset, which works wirelessly. I downloaded Sleepyhead, but got to an area that insisted I put in SD card. So I uninstalled it and am back to zero. Keep in mind I'm an old guy and very limited on the computer arena! I read many of the posts in Pugsy's Sleepyhead area, but they all seem to be SD card related and not wireless data.

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Re: Help with Sleepyhead

Post by Pugsy » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:26 pm

The only way to do wireless is with a very special WiFi card instead of the regular SD card.
It's a bit of work to setup the WiFi way of doing things and not easy if you are a computer novice.

Are you saying you don't have a SD card? If so, you can use any SD card.
or you just don't know how or want to use the SD card?

There is some data on the machine's LCD display but not as detailed as with the software.
Are you aware of that data and how to see it?

Have you seen this from RobySue. Might help explain things a bit better than my tutorial.
http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.ph ... d#pid73182

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Re: Help with Sleepyhead

Post by TASmart » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:28 pm

The wireless connection is a cell phone link to upload some of the data for the DME to demonstrate compliance to the insurance company and for the Dr office to see some of the data. You cannot access that data, except through the MyAir service and it provides virtually no data that can be used for adjusting your settings. You can actually get more by enabling the detailed data on your machine( it's not called detailed data by my memory fails as to what it is really called). To use sleepyhead you have to use the SD card. It's really easy, put an SD card into the slot on the APAP before you sleep, and after you sleep to take the card to your computer, use the SD card slot if you have one, otherwise inexpensive USB SD card readers are widely available. Sleepyhead reads the data.
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Re: Help with Sleepyhead

Post by porkchop6 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:55 pm

TASmart wrote:The wireless connection is a cell phone link to upload some of the data for the DME to demonstrate compliance to the insurance company and for the Dr office to see some of the data. You cannot access that data, except through the MyAir service and it provides virtually no data that can be used for adjusting your settings. You can actually get more by enabling the detailed data on your machine( it's not called detailed data by my memory fails as to what it is really called). To use sleepyhead you have to use the SD card. It's really easy, put an SD card into the slot on the APAP before you sleep, and after you sleep to take the card to your computer, use the SD card slot if you have one, otherwise inexpensive USB SD card readers are widely available. Sleepyhead reads the data.
Yes this is my situation. The complance data is sent wirelessly over a cell phone connection. There is a SD slot, but no SD card came with the machine. I'll get a sd card and try that.
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Re: Help with Sleepyhead

Post by Pugsy » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:19 pm

Until you can get a SD card there is data available on the LCD screen.
You have to go into the clinical setup menu area and turn "Essentials" from "usage" to "Plus" and then you can see it on the machine.
The manual here explains how to do that if you don't know how.
https://sleep.tnet.com/home/files/resme ... -guide.pdf

Any cheap generic SD card will work. I got mine at WalMart...a Sandisk I think it was.
The SD card needs to be in the machine during the night to get the detailed information so don't panic if you don't have some of the detailed data once you do get a SD card. The machine only stores the summary data and that's all that will get put on the SD card when you insert it.
Just make sure the SD card is in the cpap machine during the night and it will write the files needed for the detailed data directly onto the SD card.

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Re: Help with Sleepyhead

Post by porkchop6 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:02 pm

Ok, will do. I was on another machine for almost 7 years, but never checked any numbers, but I always felt great, so i guess it was doing it's job. The software that comes with this (MyAir)machine just shows a total night average. For 14 days my leak rate has been running 7L/min to 3L/min, with 2 nights at zero. But I never notice any leaks when awakened. So hoping to narrow down the leaks with info from Sleepyhead.

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Re: Help with Sleepyhead

Post by porkchop6 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:03 pm

xxyzx wrote:
porkchop6 wrote:Is there a non SD card version of Sleepyhead? I just got a ResMed AirSense10 Autoset, which works wirelessly. I downloaded Sleepyhead, but got to an area that insisted I put in SD card. So I uninstalled it and am back to zero. Keep in mind I'm an old guy and very limited on the computer arena! I read many of the posts in Pugsy's Sleepyhead area, but they all seem to be SD card related and not wireless data.
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it will be far easier to copy the data to an sd card and use that than to try to find out how to do it from a file on the pc that
some wireless wifi sd card had sent directly

i recall a way to do use a file on the pc itself, but cant guarantee it actually works as i just use the sd card

if you dont have an sd card then buy a cheap one and put it in

now if your machine does not use an sd card then you cant use sleepyhead as it wont have any data you can see other than compliance on the screen
Ok, Thanks I will.

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Re: Help with Sleepyhead

Post by Pugsy » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:23 pm

porkchop6 wrote:For 14 days my leak rate has been running 7L/min to 3L/min, with 2 nights at zero. But I never notice any leaks when awakened. So hoping to narrow down the leaks with info from Sleepyhead.
Your leaks are minimal and not worth worrying about as long as they don't wake you up.

The leak data from the machine LCD screen (and the MyAir website) is what we call a 95% number.
95% numbers just mean you were at OR BELOW that number for 95% of the night. People may not realize or remember the "or below" part of the definition.
I am betting that when you finally get the software up and running that your leak line barely moves off 0 for the bulk of the night and only briefly increases just a little.
I would be dancing in the street if my 95% leak number was even 10 L/min.

24 L/min is ResMed's line in the sand where large leak territory begins. You are a long way from worrying about leaks unless they are waking you up.
Now if they are waking you up you would want to try to fix them but only because they were disturbing your sleep.
The machine can easily compensate for leaks up to the 24 L/min mark and actually a little bit above that line.

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Re: Help with Sleepyhead

Post by TASmart » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:40 pm

MyAir has value to some, just not detailed diagnostic data. I read the OP carefully and given his current computer understanding I am willing to there is no WIFI in the SD slot. If there was, they would have mentioned there is a card in the slot, but since he said there was no card, I believe that its the usual case of the DME telling them that they do not need an SD card because the pertinent data is sent to them wirelessly. I avoided telling the OP about the available WIFI SD cards because as a person with little computer knowledge they would have a devil of a time getting it to work.

xxyzx don't let your zeal to discredit me hurt new users, please.
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Re: Help with Sleepyhead

Post by Pugsy » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:52 pm

MyAir or the data available on the LCD screen might be more than sufficient for some people.
Especially if they are veteran cpap users with nice low AHI and nice low leak numbers....boring data.
Not everyone wants to put everything under the microscope or even have a need to look at things that closely.
So just because I might not be happy with the limited data available from MyAir or the LCD screen doesn't mean that the rest of the world should feel like I do.

My data is very boring....I download maybe once a month, maybe longer, unless I am experimenting with a new mask or new setting...and then I don't do much but glance at the last night or 2. If all I wanted to know was an overall picture of how things went and I was feeling good, numbers were nice and low and I was sleeping good then MyAir or the LCD display information would likely be more than enough to meet my needs.

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Re: Help with Sleepyhead

Post by porkchop6 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:22 pm

Pugsy wrote:
porkchop6 wrote:For 14 days my leak rate has been running 7L/min to 3L/min, with 2 nights at zero. But I never notice any leaks when awakened. So hoping to narrow down the leaks with info from Sleepyhead.
Your leaks are minimal and not worth worrying about as long as they don't wake you up.

The leak data from the machine LCD screen (and the MyAir website) is what we call a 95% number.
95% numbers just mean you were at OR BELOW that number for 95% of the night. People may not realize or remember the "or below" part of the definition.
I am betting that when you finally get the software up and running that your leak line barely moves off 0 for the bulk of the night and only briefly increases just a little.
I would be dancing in the street if my 95% leak number was even 10 L/min.

24 L/min is ResMed's line in the sand where large leak territory begins. You are a long way from worrying about leaks unless they are waking you up.
Now if they are waking you up you would want to try to fix them but only because they were disturbing your sleep.
The machine can easily compensate for leaks up to the 24 L/min mark and actually a little bit above that line.
Great! It sounds like it's not bad, but I did mis-type. My readings have been running 7L/min to 32L/min, with 2 nights at zero. I guess it just the idea of waking up in the morning, feeling good and not remimbering any problems during the night and expecting to see a smiley face on the led, but finding the red mad face and it just pisses me off first thing in the morning!