testing to see if it works?

grybeard77 · Post by **grybeard77** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:17 pm

If it did, any comments would be welcomed.

RiverDave · Post by **RiverDave** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:20 pm

I can see the graph. Except for the large leaks, I'd be crapping rainbows if those were my numbers.

grybeard77 · Post by **grybeard77** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:40 pm

Thanks!! The large leaks are mouth breathing,( I think ) and even though I use a cervical collar I can still let some air out of the pie hole. These leaks are mild up against most nights. But as Pugsy says, not to worry to much about leaks when every thing else looks good and you feel good...I also try keeping my tongue glued to the top of my mouth, but the habit never took...Yet!

Sleeping Ugly · Post by **Sleeping Ugly** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:34 pm

That's a unicorns and rainbows graph--except for the leaks. I hope you can get get those under control and then you can hang your graph in an art gallery!

grybeard77 · Post by **grybeard77** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:50 pm

More details

TASmart · Post by **TASmart** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:56 pm

xxyzx wrote:
grybeard77 wrote:

If it did, any comments would be welcomed.
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0.53
attaboy

now how do you feel
how is your RDI
do you have RERAs
is your spo2 good

The RERAs are 0, making the RDI 0.53.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:07 pm

grybeard77 wrote:

If it did, any comments would be welcomed.

You could probably do with a wee bit more pressure, I'm guessing that either snores or flow limitations are causing the pressure to jump around.

You might try wearing a cloth headband across your lips. that might make a sizeable difference in the leaks... it helps encourage your lips to stay closed.

grybeard77 · Post by **grybeard77** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:18 pm

Thanks TASmart, check PM...

grybeard77 · Post by **grybeard77** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:24 pm

Thank you Palerider, I will up my pressure a tiny bit and hope for better stats. I have tried a soft headband around my lips and it didn't seem to stop mouth leaks. Have also tried chin straps too. When I wake up during the night, I never feel any leaks coming out from around my P10. Don't think I ever have snores any more but will open that chart and take a second look...

grybeard77 · Post by **grybeard77** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:29 pm

typical snore chart

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:03 pm

Sleeping Ugly wrote:That's a unicorns and rainbows graph--except for the leaks. I hope you can get get those under control and then you can hang your graph in an art gallery!

Problem is that leaks can cause the cpap not to detect events which simply means the AHI can be misleading.

TedVPAP · Post by **TedVPAP** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:42 pm

Except for leaks, your data is great. If you feel good then you are all set. If you are not yet sure if your sleep is optimal, then tackle the leaks to see if it makes a difference. As a test, tape the lips and see.

palerider · Post by **palerider** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:06 pm

Guest wrote:Problem is that leaks can cause the cpap not to detect events which simply means the AHI can be misleading.

This is not true. The machine *CAN* detect events even with really bad leaks, but above around 30-35lpm it starts to be unable to tell what TYPE of event is happening, and will flag an apnea as a UA, Unknown Apnea, instead of CA or OA.

drq · Post by **drq** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:45 am

palerider wrote:
Guest wrote:Problem is that leaks can cause the cpap not to detect events which simply means the AHI can be misleading.
This is not true. The machine *CAN* detect events even with really bad leaks, but above around 30-35lpm it starts to be unable to tell what TYPE of event is happening, and will flag an apnea as a UA, Unknown Apnea, instead of CA or OA.

Which leads misleading to AHI count.

Jay Aitchsee · Post by **Jay Aitchsee** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:25 am

Grybeard, while your leak line does exhibit some of the characteristics of mouth leaks (flat, plateau shaped), those sharp rapid increases in leak could be caused by something else - like your pillows being pulled away from your nose; especially since you've adopted measures to minimize mouth leaks.
To sort this out, you could, as TedVPAP mentioned above, tape to prevent mouth leaks and see if this type of leaks still occurs which would indicate something other than mouth leaks. You might also gain some insight by comparing your waveforms to examples in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=112758#p1085906
If you suspect the pillows are leaking, you might try clipping the mask house to your night shirt so it isn't pulled away from your face by the main hose. I use a suspender type clip attached to the mask hose with a piece of Velcro and then clipped to my night shirt so the mask hose remains pretty much in the same relative position regardless of my movement.

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