Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by Stormynights » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:24 pm

My husbands aunt is 92 and has asthma. When she was younger they sold asthma cigarettes and she said they helped her. She said she only had to take a puff or two then put it out until she needed it again. It was nothing but weed.

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by Okie bipap » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:36 pm

I doubt if it would work for me. Smoke is one of my big triggers for asthma. However, I started smoking around 1960 at the suggestion of my doctor. He suggested that instead of putting me on tranquilizers. No doctor would make that recommendation today.

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by Guest » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:42 pm

CrankyGranny wrote:(And I never said someone bought two $1700 TAPs. )
CrankyGranny wrote:

Consider sleeping with a sports mouthguard in your mouth.
Whatever works for you. Personally, I would rather wear something around my neck instead of stuffing a device in my mouth.

Stored away here at the house are several boil-n-bite mouthpieces, a Dr. Sue NoseBreath, aveo TSD, a SomnoGuard adjustable and two $1700 TAPs.

None of the mouthpieces are comfortable, and none hold the neck in the correct position. Except for the TAP, none stop the jaw from dropping.
Cranky obviously meant she ordered them, received them, is storing them just never paid for them.

Refresh my memory, that is relevant to what now?

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by ChicagoGranny » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:47 pm

Guest wrote:she ordered them, received them
Wrong again. Your imagination is severely limited.

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by Guest » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:48 pm

CrankyGranny wrote:
Guest wrote:she ordered them, received them
Wrong again. Your imagination is severely limited.
I am resolutely certain it is your ability to communicate effectively that is limited.

Time for more introspection.

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by KimberlyM » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:18 pm

Guest wrote:
CrankyGranny wrote:
Guest wrote:she ordered them, received them
Wrong again. Your imagination is severely limited.
I am resolutely certain it is your ability to communicate effectively that is limited.

Time for more introspection.
This is of no use to ankspondy (the original poster). Please either answer the original question or move on. You are derailing the thread.

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by Guest » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:38 pm

KimberlyM wrote:This is of no use to ankspondy (the original poster). Please either answer the original question or move on. You are derailing the thread.
I couldn't agree more which is why I said -
Guest wrote:Cranky obviously meant she ordered them, received them, is storing them just never paid for them.

Refresh my memory, that is relevant to what now?
Maybe you can interpret Cranky's words so they make sense? Then maybe not!!

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:55 am

Guest wrote:Maybe you can interpret Cranky's words so they make sense?
No need to interpret; all you had to do was ask.

Instead, you chose to ASSume:
Guest wrote:
Cranky obviously meant

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by Guest » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:19 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Guest wrote:Maybe you can interpret Cranky's words so they make sense?
No need to interpret; all you had to do was ask.

Instead, you chose to ASSume:
Guest wrote:
Cranky obviously meant
KimberlyM wrote: This is of no use to ankspondy (the original poster). Please either answer the original question or move on. You are derailing the thread.

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by Comfortably Numb » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:27 am

Since this thread first started, I've been paying particular attention to any significant changes in my AHI following occasional cannabis usage. As I said earlier, since starting cpap several months ago I've been weening myself from nightly xanax as a sleep aid. Ultimately, I hope not to have to use anything, including melatonin. The same applies to cannabis.

That being said, there are those occasions when I partake of the evil weed. This usually happens at social gatherings, concerts, etc. When this occurs, I've observed significant reductions in my AHI when evaluating the data on the morning after. These reductions are consistently in the range of 90%. Since cannabis in large concentrations (i.e., immediately after 2-3 tokes) is almost always a stimulant to me, I would never imbibe immediately before trying to fall asleep. However, when I have taken these tokes several hours earlier, the stimulating properties disappear by bedtime and I experience a huge reduction in AHI.

I realize that AHI is only a piece of the puzzle and doesn't necessarily reflect the quality of sleep. It could be that cannabis lowers AHI by interfering with REM sleep, thereby cancelling out any benefits:
Patients with REM-related OSA tend to have an overall low AHI by virtue of the disproportionately lower percent of REM sleep as a function of total sleep duration.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3365081/ It's definitely something to think about because I don't necessarily feel any better when my AHI has been significantly reduced, regardless of the cause.

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:05 pm

Comfortably Numb wrote:However, when I have taken these tokes several hours earlier, the stimulating properties disappear by bedtime and I experience a huge reduction in AHI.
What do you consider "huge"? (This question is asked because some people have come here reporting a difference of 1.0 AHI as a large difference.)

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Re: Not sure if this is a taboo topic around here but..

Post by Comfortably Numb » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:44 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Comfortably Numb wrote:However, when I have taken these tokes several hours earlier, the stimulating properties disappear by bedtime and I experience a huge reduction in AHI.
What do you consider "huge"? (This question is asked because some people have come here reporting a difference of 1.0 AHI as a large difference.)
I consider a reduction in AHI from an average of 2.0 down to an average of 0.4 to be "huge," at least in my case. I realize that both values are outstanding. I'm just making an observation that, all other things being equal, the effects of cannabis appear to significantly reduce my AHI.