OT: Is anyone watching...

[thebigtiny]

Well I stand corrected!
I did not know that OT Meant Off Topic.
Carry on, I apologize for my lack of knowledge and egregious mistake interrupting this delightful conversation.

[flightco]

why are our canadian friends not talking about the shooting of muslims on quebec eh?
maybe time to start another thread eh?

Trudeau is welcoming them with open arms. I suspect it won't go well for them.

Den

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Dang, we might need a northern wall too, now that will be expensive, especially in Canadian dollars

[flightco]

Had Hil-liar-ly won, we'd be in really deep do-do.

Den

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So true, but there is a huge difference, Republicans would not be rioting in the streets because we did not get our own way. Go ahead and throw your public tantrums, it is called free speech and it is your right, but DT is the prez and all your crying and name calling is not going to change that. Had a huge fight with my Mother In Law Sat night, she called me a white supremacist because I voted for Trump. Not over it yet and could kill our family trip to Mexico at end of Feb. By the way, My mother in law is Mexican, my wife is Mexican and my wonderful 8 year old son is half Mexican, I love them all dearly, don't really think I am a white supremacist I think it is a convenient word to call someone you are loosing an argument with and your snowflake is not defending you.

[flightco]

You are a paranoid fruit loop. Trump is doing great things. Hell he has done more in a week and a half than obama did in his lazy eight years!

Den, unfortunately what you now have is INFinitely worse... infinitely. I feel bad beause we've been friends, regardless of political diffs, but please don't get lost in DT's madness. The danger DT presents is so far beyond anything Obama or any Rep. has presented and I just hope you stay safe. I'm not raving - i have seen/heard and read about people like him in the relatively recent past and you seriously do not want what's coming.

Never thought of DT as an exercise guy but I find it amazing that in just a couple days he has got more people who look like they are held captive in their parents basement smoking weed out walking in the fresh air than previous 3 presidents combined He said he would be everyones president and here he is getting millions off their ass and outside moving

[flightco]

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sor ... ation-ban/

1. Much narrower focus: The Obama administration conducted a review in 2011 of the vetting procedures applied to citizens of a single country (Iraq) and then only to refugees and applicants for Special Immigrant Visas (SIVs), created by Congress to help Iraqis (and later Afghans) who supported the United States in those conflicts. The Trump executive order, on the other hand, applies to seven countries with total population more than 130 million, and to virtually every category of immigrant other than diplomats, including tourists and business travelers.

2. Not a ban: Contrary to Trump’s Sunday statement and the repeated claims of his defenders, the Obama administration did not “ban visas for refugees from Iraq for six months.” For one thing, refugees don’t travel on visas. More importantly, while the flow of Iraqi refugees slowed significantly during the Obama administration’s review, refugees continued to be admitted to the United States during that time, and there was not a single month in which no Iraqis arrived here. In other words, while there were delays in processing, there was no outright ban.

3. Grounded in specific threat: The Obama administration’s 2011 review came in response to specific threat information, including the arrest in Kentucky of two Iraqi refugees, still the only terrorism-related arrests out of about 130,000 Iraqi refugees and SIV holders admitted to the United States. Thus far, the Trump administration has provided no evidence, nor even asserted, that any specific information or intelligence has led to its draconian order.

4. Orderly, organized process: The Obama administration’s review was conducted over roughly a dozen deputies and principals committee meetings, involving Cabinet and deputy Cabinet-level officials from all of the relevant departments and agencies — including the State, Homeland Security and Justice Departments — and the intelligence community. The Trump executive order was reportedly drafted by White House political officials and then presented to the implementing agencies a fait accompli. This is not just bad policymaking practice, it led directly to the confusion, bordering on chaos, that has attended implementation of the order by agencies that could only start asking questions (such as: “does this apply to green card holders?”) once the train had left the station.

5. Far stronger vetting today: Much has been made of Trump’s call for “extreme vetting” for citizens of certain countries. The entire purpose of the Obama administration’s 2011 review was to enhance the already stringent vetting to which refugees and SIV applicants were subjected. While many of the details are classified, those rigorous procedures, which lead to waiting times of 18-24 months for many Iraqi and Syrian refugees, remain in place today and are continually reviewed by interagency officials. The Trump administration is, therefore, taking on a problem that has already been (and is continually being) addressed.

*Bonus: Obama’s “seven countries” taken out of context: Trump’s claim that the seven countries listed in the executive order came from the Obama administration is conveniently left unexplained. A bit of background: soon after the December 2015 terror attack in San Bernadino, President Obama signed an amendment to the Visa Waiver Program, a law that allows citizens of 38 countries to travel to the United States without obtaining visas (and gives Americans reciprocal privileges in those countries). The amendment removed from the Visa Waiver Program dual nationals who were citizens of four countries (Iraq, Iran, Sudan, and Syria), or anyone who had recently traveled to those countries. The Obama administration added three more to the list (Libya, Somalia, and Yemen), bringing the total to seven. But this law did not bar anyone from coming to the United States. It only required a relatively small percentage of people to obtain a visa first. And to avoid punishing people who clearly had good reasons to travel to the relevant countries, the Obama administration used a waiver provided by Congress for certain travelers, including journalists, aid workers, and officials from international organizations like the United Nations.

You forgot something very important. ISIS doesn't really hate the USA all that much, as a matter of fact, they kind of like us and have no intention of killing us if they get the chance. This stuff happening in France and other Eruo countries is all fake news. ISIS does not want to harm US people, they only want to live as the religion of peace but this terrible 3 month ban while Trump tries to figure out what is really going on and how to stop it, will infuriate our ISIS friends and they will use this to grab other Muslims . They will show them the news article and instantly have new recruits, then they will want to kill us - DT has put us in a very dangerous situation but since he is now Hitler maybe he can handle them that way.

[flightco]

"snowflakes" Get enough of them together and you have an avalanche that buries whole towns. Glaciers that cover continents are made of snowflakes.

Read some history - you are about to descend into the worst hell you can imagine.

Snowflakes melt in the Summer, Liberals just moan and sweat, real Americans Work and Sweat! We had eight years of Hell, it's time to step out of the fire. Jim

What do you get when you have snowflakes and global warming? a mess

[BleepingBeauty]

"snowflakes" Get enough of them together and you have an avalanche that buries whole towns. Glaciers that cover continents are made of snowflakes.

Read some history - you are about to descend into the worst hell you can imagine.

Sorry. We've had that for the last eight years!!!
We didn't want yet another pathological liar in the White House.


Den

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Wow, Den, you're even more delusional than I thought. The irony of your statement is astounding. YOU VOTED FOR ONE! How anyone cannot see the incredible threat he is to our country (and the rest of the world) is really beyond me... SMFH

I hope we're all not incinerated before his impeachment (which can't happen soon enough for me).

[49er]

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/01/30/sor ... ation-ban/

Now THAT is a very left-wing (Alt-Left) publication with a far-left pedigree.

I wouldn't believe anything they say.


Den

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Says the person who calls Bannon (a nazi) a fine man and well qualified.

[BleepingBeauty]

He is doing what he promised to do during the campaign.

Yeah? That's half the problem, but he's already gone way beyond the bullshit he spewed during the campaign (and that was some serious bullshit).

Didn't he promise to "drain the swamp?" Instead, he filling it to overflowing with the richest people he can find. He railed against Goldman Sachs, and now he's surrounded himself with them. He's nominated people who are woefully unqualified (just like him) for the positions he wants them in. He had you all chanting "lock her up!" like maniacal dopes, but as soon as he was elected, that idea was out the window (not that it had any merit to begin with). He said "Mexico's gonna pay for the wall!" and you cheered; and now, YOU AND ME are going to pay for the stupid wall.

Do you know that the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary?

Days ago, he swore to uphold the Constitution, but it's obvious that he has no idea what's in it. His actions in just this short time make it clear that you ARE watching a coup of America take place. How can you not acknowledge that? Again, I'm SMFH...

Seriously, what's wrong with you people?

[49er]

Had Hil-liar-ly won, we'd be in really deep do-do.

Den

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So true, but there is a huge difference, Republicans would not be rioting in the streets because we did not get our own way. Go ahead and throw your public tantrums, it is called free speech and it is your right, but DT is the prez and all your crying and name calling is not going to change that. Had a huge fight with my Mother In Law Sat night, she called me a white supremacist because I voted for Trump. Not over it yet and could kill our family trip to Mexico at end of Feb. By the way, My mother in law is Mexican, my wife is Mexican and my wonderful 8 year old son is half Mexican, I love them all dearly, don't really think I am a white supremacist I think it is a convenient word to call someone you are loosing an argument with and your snowflake is not defending you.

Flightco,

This isn't a Republican vs. Democrat issue.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/p ... trump.html

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/26/politics/ ... per-cnntv/ - Mcmullin is a conservative former intelligence officer.

Obviously, this was not going to happen but if by some miracle, the electors had put in someone like John Kasich, I would have been ecstatic. Not because I agree with alot of his policies but because I feel our Democracy would have been saved.

You may not be a white supremacist but you voted for one. Are your honestly comfortable with Bannon ( a nazi) having all that power?

Instead of blowing your mother-in-law off, I challenge you to commit to listening to what she has to say without arguing with her. I know that is hard to do but is it worth the price of your trip being cancelled and family relations being disrupted?

49er

[BleepingBeauty]

Let me take a wild guess. You voted for Hillary and you are one of the snowflakes who feels so entitled that you cant accept the fact Trump won.

Assumptions are dangerous (and often wrong).

Or let me take a wilder guess. You are not even American and are not eligible to vote but as an outsider, you dont like what you PERCEIVE as someone who is awful (Trump)?

I'm not surprised that you can't be bothered to look at the info right next to every one of my posts. Arizona is in America, braintrust.

Trump is merely a throwback to America's previous greatness as an economic superpower. Our economy has been steadily withering away since Reagan left and in particular its gotten steadily bad since the early 2000s. NAFTA sent most of our once great manufacturing and industry jobs overseas...to Mexico, to communist China and to other places. Everywhere but HERE. Many previously employed Americans became lost, with no job or no job that paid equivalent wages to a good factory job.

Jeezus, do you even remember where we were, economically, eight years ago? Open your eyes, dude. Manufacturing is being taken over by robots (and has been for a long time). And some of those once-great manufacturing jobs were sent overseas by none other than your man, Twitler. And his daughter. Why? It's all about the $$$ (and so is Dump).

Trump is attempting to "put America first" again and bring those better paying manufacturing jobs back from overseas and put tariffs on stuff we import from other countries.

Yeah, good luck with that.

America is currently the country that taxes its own citizenry to death and who then do not have much leftover money to buy our own manufactured products (if there were any made here anymore). Trump is trying to reverse that.

Dump doesn't pay taxes. I wonder why that is... Why hasn't he released his returns, when he promised he would? What's he hiding?

The left hates what Trump is going to do. They hate it. They hate Trump. Thats their problem.

Newsflash: It's your problem, too.

...this coup happen right before their eyes and still feeling good about voting for it?

https://twitter.com/Trump_Regrets

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[BleepingBeauty]

You are a paranoid fruit loop. Trump is doing great things. Hell he has done more in a week and a half than obama did in his lazy eight years!

Den, unfortunately what you now have is INFinitely worse... infinitely. I feel bad beause we've been friends, regardless of political diffs, but please don't get lost in DT's madness. The danger DT presents is so far beyond anything Obama or any Rep. has presented and I just hope you stay safe. I'm not raving - i have seen/heard and read about people like him in the relatively recent past and you seriously do not want what's coming.

Seriously, man, what color is the sky in your world?

[BleepingBeauty]

Fake news. Down here Bannon is being advertised as an alt-right, super right wing guy who hates left wing jews like you. Hence I like Bannon. If the claims are true that is. What you just posted sounds like something they'd post on the headline of the National Enquirer.

You are a fruitloop and if you ever leave Canada, youd fit in well into southern commiefornia...where all the fruits and nuts here in America live.

You could also just move to israel, but not all jews in israel believe like you do.

We have a border with your assholes in charge of it- You people are screwing up the WORLD again!

The entire world - except Russia - thinks you are all bat shit crazy.

Wow, are you a prize! You're different from most Dumpsters in that you openly admit your bigotry. How refreshing. Now, please crawl back into your cave and stay there indefinitely.

And just a heads-up for ya: Dump considers The National Enquirer a newspaper. And he only knows what's on the internet. (HIS words, and you know he has the best words.)

[Julie]

Someone is messing with the posts - I DID NOT write that one 2-3 back re 'hil-iarly' and do doo etc. How DARE you attribute it to me! You REEK of lies whoever you are and you can join DT in his cesspool! Outrageous!

[BleepingBeauty]

Im still hoping Trump has the FBI indict hitlery, doubt he will though he has more important business. Like getting the country back to working in real jobs again and getting Americans off welfare who ten to fifteen years ago were working in real jobs, but gave up after 2008. And also taking care of the middle east...PREDICTION: We will be at full conventional war in the middle east within three months. I aint talking special ops and intel crap and "surgical" air strikes. Im talking massive B-52 carpet bombing of large sections of the middle east, followed by sending in whole Marine Corps divisions and Army heavy armored divisions to seize and hold the middle east oil fields...permanently. IT would be fine with me, we are the infidels afterall and after all the money we have blown over in the middle east since 911 pissing around in counter-terror and low level conventional war (Iraq), we DESERVE some financial payback longterm. Trump has publicly stated we should just take their oil fields by military force considering we have been paying for Saudi Arabia's defense for so long...screw those people.

Screw israel too. Screw the entire middle east.

You have mentioned Jews or Israel in at least 6 posts..What we don't need on this message board is an anti-semitic asshole.
You can agree or disagree with someone without bringing up their religion. You are sounding more and more like an uneducated red neck...full of hate. Hopefully members will ignore your posts. Now I'm sorry I tried to help with your CPAP problems.

Two thumbs up, LSAT.