Should I do this?
Should I do this?
Just picked up a new Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset. Is it worth it to sign up for Resmed Myair on Internet? I wasn't sure how much data/graphs it gives. If it is similar to data you can get from Sleepyhead, it might be worth it. However, if it is the same data you can get from the CPAP, I probably won't do it. Thoughts?
- chunkyfrog
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Re: Should I do this?
Way less info than Sleepyhead, or even the machine's display.
If you like getting an "attaboy" for sleeping a full 8 hours, it might be a small plus.
Not worth the bother for me.
If you like getting an "attaboy" for sleeping a full 8 hours, it might be a small plus.
Not worth the bother for me.
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Re: Should I do this?
Way more info on Sleepyhead. You can enlarge your graphs where you can see how you were breathing at the time of a problem. It can be a breath by breath replay. On the flow graph you are actually seeing your inspiration and expiration. It helps you identify leaks better and see what events are happening when your pressure increases.
So My Air is no comparison.
So My Air is no comparison.
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- Sheriff Buford
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Re: Should I do this?
I'm with the stay with the Sleepyhead crowd. Plus I don't don't want a company to have access to my data. Though I have nothing to hide, it ain't non of their business... or as we say in Texas, "bitnes".
Sheriff to
Sheriff to
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Re: Should I do this?
Why would it be worth it?Newcpapuser1000 wrote:Just picked up a new Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset. Is it worth it to sign up for Resmed Myair on Internet? I wasn't sure how much data/graphs it gives. If it is similar to data you can get from Sleepyhead, it might be worth it. However, if it is the same data you can get from the CPAP, I probably won't do it. Thoughts?
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Re: Should I do this?
Sheriff Buford wrote:I'm with the stay with the Sleepyhead crowd. Plus I don't don't want a company to have access to my data. Though I have nothing to hide, it ain't non of their business... or as we say in Texas, "bitnes".
Sheriff to
Your DME already has access, due to compliance requirements. The requirements originated with medicare but have been copied verbatim by most private and exchange insurers. You must use the machine for at least four hours per night, at least 70% of nights, with a mask fit of 70% or better.
While these stats are not optimal, the idea was that the patient is deriving "some" benefit with this much usage.
Re: Should I do this?
The benefit that MyAir covers is Compliance encouragement. Gee I got my Silver Medal because I slept with it for a little while. Gee I got a Gold Medal because I slept with it longer. Don't get me wrong, Usage, excuse me, Compliance IS Important. More important is the management of my apenea. Originally 90 no 70 AHI without therapy, but frequently under 1 with therapy and the help of the board contributors here.
For me that doesn't matter because i would NEVER sleep without my xPAP. I am always "compliant". Being "Compliant" says nothing about what good the therapy is doing for you while you can track that with SleepyHead. I think I have missed 3 nights since 2003, The first 2 because I forgot my xPAP when packing for an overnight. the second I'm giving myself because in all that time there had to be another one, the the 3rd at the end of November when I had to do it for a split night study that I completed my 2 hrs sleep without when they woke me to go home and said I had a "Rough" night (no kidding).
I look at MyAir just to see what AHI they gave me which I see many hours after I review my SleepyHead data.
For me that doesn't matter because i would NEVER sleep without my xPAP. I am always "compliant". Being "Compliant" says nothing about what good the therapy is doing for you while you can track that with SleepyHead. I think I have missed 3 nights since 2003, The first 2 because I forgot my xPAP when packing for an overnight. the second I'm giving myself because in all that time there had to be another one, the the 3rd at the end of November when I had to do it for a split night study that I completed my 2 hrs sleep without when they woke me to go home and said I had a "Rough" night (no kidding).
I look at MyAir just to see what AHI they gave me which I see many hours after I review my SleepyHead data.
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Re: Should I do this?
Not unless and until the user signs a Privacy Release to allow access when you picked up your equipment. Just cuz a vendor sells you something doesn't give them the right to access anything. Certainly you can also revoke that access anytime or set it to expire on a certain date unless renewed.D. H. wrote:Your DME already has access, due to compliance requirements.
Using the modem during the compliance period makes sense esp for newbies who may have troubles, it makes it easier. Just don't get the idea that someone is personally looking at your data each day. There are flags that sent a notice for the DME to review. Don't forget the DME's will likely have hundreds of people in compliance at any giving time. You are better off to learn how to understand and review YOUR data yourself.
I am on Medicare but Apria did not put a modem on my cpap. It was not my 1st cpap so I was not worried, in fact preferred it that way. However, Apria's motive was not clear until the compliance period was over. All of Apria's medicare claims were denied as a result and remember those ABN notices they want you to sign saying if medicare doesn't pay that you will cover the cost? Well I never signed an ABN either.
That would just give them the ammo to get a judgement on me (you) for that outrageous amount they bill medicare every month. So even if they settle out-of-court with you for half of the amount they have been billing medicare it would amount to prob 3x what they would have received had they complied with the medicare billing rules.
This is what I suspect their motive is/was - medicare requires proof of use as stated above (70% each month). Apria had continued to bill medicare without providing proof I was using the cpap. But what Apria apparently did NOT know is medicare was paying for my supplies for this cpap I was getting from another vendor and they were paying my sleep doctor because I was providing copies of the data directly to my sleep doctor who was apparently then provided the data to the 2nd vendor.
Just why Apria never asked for any data from me is what makes me think they intended to get the medicare denial of payment.
After all Apria has been in business for many years and has signed agreements with medicare. In fact, medicare told me why the payments were denied (I called them) and also said they sent letters to Apria but Apria failed to respond or submit what is required for the duration of the compliance period. Very, very suspicious.
The moral of the story is read and understand ALL of that paperwork shoved in your face when you go to pick up you equipment (or they come to your house like they are supposed to do). If need be take the paperwork home to read at your leisure. Mark, hilight, or crossout things you don't understand or agree with.
Keep in mind these vendors know you are sleep deprived, slow to understand, and subject to make poor decisions/choices while in this condition. They have been in this business and dealing with these situations for many years.
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Re: Should I do this?
Waste of time. You can get the same data off your machine display. Use Sleepyhead if you want to properly manage your therapy.Newcpapuser1000 wrote: Is it worth it to sign up for Resmed Myair on Internet?
That's true only if you ask the DME to report your compliance. Gramps and I each have ResMed machines and the DME has nothing to do with our use of the machines and nothing to do with compliance reporting.D.H. wrote:Your DME already has access, due to compliance requirements.
Re: Should I do this?
Depend on the situation. My DME has never had access to my info. Only the sleep Dr and that was only for my last machine for first follow-up visit SD card. The first 3 machines nobody except me, I didn't even see a sleep Dr when I started 11yrs ago.D.H. wrote:Your DME already has access, due to compliance requirements....
I'm the only one who monitors my therapy now.
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Re: Should I do this?
When making a lifestyle change it is important to have the right support for you. Only you can decide if it is worth it. Here is my take: Last night was night three for me and I have Myair set up as well as sleepyhead based on the recommendation of this group. While the data is less detailed and arguably less usable, I do not feel that it is useless. If nothing else I can check my AHI from my phone without pulling the card out of the machine and firing up the computer. While this is less than ideal, it is better than having no data before I get the time to analyze all of it.
Re: Should I do this?
If all you are looking for is AHi info, most machines have an LCD screen...just press a button. You don't have to pull the SD card.2xRustler wrote:When making a lifestyle change it is important to have the right support for you. Only you can decide if it is worth it. Here is my take: Last night was night three for me and I have Myair set up as well as sleepyhead based on the recommendation of this group. While the data is less detailed and arguably less usable, I do not feel that it is useless. If nothing else I can check my AHI from my phone without pulling the card out of the machine and firing up the computer. While this is less than ideal, it is better than having no data before I get the time to analyze all of it.
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- Sheriff Buford
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Re: Should I do this?
My DME has nuthin'... Ain't on Medicare.D.H. wrote:Sheriff Buford wrote:I'm with the stay with the Sleepyhead crowd. Plus I don't don't want a company to have access to my data. Though I have nothing to hide, it ain't non of their business... or as we say in Texas, "bitnes".
Sheriff to
Your DME already has access, due to compliance requirements. The requirements originated with medicare but have been copied verbatim by most private and exchange insurers. You must use the machine for at least four hours per night, at least 70% of nights, with a mask fit of 70% or better.
While these stats are not optimal, the idea was that the patient is deriving "some" benefit with this much usage.
Sheriff
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Re: Should I do this?
D.H. wrote:
Your DME already has access, due to compliance requirements. The requirements originated with medicare but have been copied verbatim by most private and exchange insurers. You must use the machine for at least four hours per night, at least 70% of nights, with a mask fit of 70% or better.
That is only true for a small number of people here.
for example, My insurance rented for the first two months, and once I proved compliance, they bought the machine outright. So, back in Jun of 2012, my DME sent me a new SD card and an envelope to send in the used card. That was the last time I ever contacted them. They got my compliance ONCE. And that was enough.
For many of us, there was never any reason to continue compliance checking. And some people buy their own machine and don't have a DME checking their compliance. Even my mom who is on medicare hasn't been to a sleep doctor in years, and has no compliance checks. The machine is paid for, and she buys new masks via ebay since that is cheaper than going to a sleep doctor for a required visit.
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Re: Should I do this?
The last machine I got was through my Medicare Advantage Plan....I never supplied any compliance information and no one ever asked. It was a rent for 13 months and then I owned it.
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