HELP New P-10 Use=Blow Fish Cheeks

[Pugsy]

if your brain doesn't wanna remember 'em, that's between you and it

Sometimes my brain prefers to be a lazy sot too.
Truth be known sometimes when I get frustrated (like I did with imgur bug) the brain goes on strike and refuses to do any work.
Right now my head is splitting and I am off to bed.

[REDHEADED LIL]

Hi Pugsy...Just to check in this a.m. I had a very loose chinstrap & loose headgear so much so that I had to hold the hose a certain way to keep from making noise & sometimes holding the pillows against my nose while I was trying to sleep. Both of the straps met at the lower back of my head & it was loose at the front. I had placed one of them at the top of my head & the other at the bottom for sleeping. My tape was good though. This was the 1st time I noticed all the above happening, and it was also the 1st time I had to manually hold the hose/pillows. I have to check MyAir to see how bad the leak was, but S.H. said I think AHI of .5 with large leak. Amera View looks better to me after last night struggling with the hose/pillows....Thanks for all your help so far....Lil

[REDHEADED LIL]

Hi Again Pugsy..My Air was 30 on the leak & .9 AHI...hope I can do better with the P-10..thanks so much for all your help...Lil

[Pugsy]

What does SleepyHead say the % of time over red line was?
This is in the statistics column on the left below the main statistics?

I am confused about when you say both straps met at the lower back of the head...both of the P10 straps or the chin strap and the back strap of the P10?
You obviously had the P10 too loose. Maybe review the fitting video???

The My Air number for leak is the 95% leak number I think and all that means is for 95% of the the leak was at OR BELOW 30 and that really isn't horribly horribly. 95% numbers are easily skewed upwards and aren't a good measuring tool in this situation.
I would be more interested the Sleepyhead statistic for how much time was spent over the red line.
It's probably high if you had to hold the mask in place.

I wonder if you might do better with the Swift FX nasal pillows...it has top and back straps that have definitive areas for adjusting so it is likely more stable.

The AHI being low doesn't surprise me after finding out what the AHI on the home study was and seeing your other reports. Your OSA is probably fairly mild in terms of the actual number of events.

[REDHEADED LIL]

Hi Pugsy..In S.H. the time over leak red line is 40..then 18.0 95% at 38.40. My supplier said I would have to wait 3mos. for another mask now after I got the P-10. I will go back & see the video of the fitting for P-10. I mentioned the straps or headgear split strap..both were at the back of my head near my neck instead of where I had them placed before going to bed..the chin strap was floppy. I will ck also on the Swift FX though I am thin in the pocket right now...thanks a million for your help...Lil

[Pugsy]

Okay...both P10 straps ended up at the back of the head. I understand now. The top strap slid down backwards..it was too far back on the crown probably.

Watch the video again and tonight try putting the chin strap on over the P10 once you have the straps in proper working position.

If you want to try the Swift FX I can loan you my spare to try. I don't want to sell it or give it away permanently right now...I am a cpap hoarder but I am willing to loan it to you just for you to check out to see if you even like it or not.
The headgear and hose have been used. I do have nasal pillows that are brand new sealed in the package. I think those are the most important thing in terms of being new and the yuck factor for using a used mask.
Should you end up liking it...the nasal pillows you can just have anyway as I have plenty of those...all I ask is that you return the hose and headgear once you get your own and there's no urgent rush to get it back to me. This headgear and hose also works on the Swift FX Nano and it's the Nano that I want to have as a spare available.
The Swift FX nasal pillows are very similar to the P10 except no hard plastic shell and unfortunately no mesh venting so it is a bit noisier in terms of vent noise. Not horrible but noisier than the P10 for sure.

So if used doesn't creep you out...I will loan you my headgear and short hose and give you some nasal pillows (I don't want those back) and if you end up falling in love with it we will find you new headgear and short hose cheap somewhere or wait until your insurance can help with cost..
How does that sound to you?
If agreeable....send me your name and mailing address in a private message.

Oh...have you seen or tried the Respironics DreamWear? If I am mailing a loaner I can just as easily mail 2 loaners.
Used of course and I do have pets but I keep my spare stuff sealed in a plastic tote.
If you want to try the DreamWear I can loan you that as well.
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/pr-dre ... -pack.html

[REDHEADED LIL]

Hi Pugsy...I had good results/bad results last night. I made everything too tight. I put the chin stap on last (Res.Med black/thick one) & wrapped the P-10 straps in the one long extra velco strap on the chinstrap. Pillows were med...mouth taped. Head feels like everything still wrapped up. Good results in MyAir...01 in events (lowest in a very long time), leak was only 13....I did have the whole get up move up on me & it was noisy...in my sleep I just tried to adjust the pillows & hose..then I realized I needed to move down the slipped up chinstrap. I could try again tonight a little losser & when I do my bathroom brake during the early a.m. I should check on the headgear which would be still attached to me. Definitely need to raise my humidity too. Far from a comfortable nights sleep....& would still love to try other masks...Thanks for all your help so far...Lil

[Pugsy]

The masks should arrive Monday if the USPS can be believed.
You've got the DreamWear, the Swift FX Nano and some Swift FX nasal pillows coming. I sent you what paperwork I had...I don't think I had everything though...if something is missing we can get it off the interweb.

Try to find a happy medium between too tight and too loose.
Too tight is going to be uncomfortable and mess with your sleep. If something hurts you won't sleep good.
The mask tension thing is something you just have to do and it's trial and error but you will eventually get the hang of it just like eventually your body will learn to close that back door and chipmunk cheeks won't be nearly so problematic.

Right now your number one goal is getting decent sleep...without decent sleep the other stuff doesn't really matter so much.
Mask issues need to be minimized so that we can get your sleep quality improved and then we will start worrying about therapy effectiveness.
Your AHI is always going to be low..because it was low without cpap.
I want to discuss the flow limitations but let's wait on that discussion until we have you sleeping well with mask issues not being a problem.