Should Trump Jump Up?

[Lucyhere]

I watched the first debate, and can't believe that Trump didn't make more of Hilary trying to out Obama as non-American when she was running against him for the Democrat nomination.

Whaaaaaaat? Reference please.

[Cardsfan]

Just curious = a question for the Hillary supporters:
Please name the 3 biggest accomplishments during her career as a New York State Senator, her time as First Lady, and her time as Secretary of State. Because she should be running on those issues, what has she accomplished in public life? Not running on what Donald said off the record decades ago. She's got nothing.

[WarmBodies]

I'm a Brit and we trust Hillary less than Trump... He's a bit of a chauvinist, but she is a nightmare, volunteering to defend a rapist and then ridiculing his victim in court to get him aquitted, then laughing in an interview at him beating a polygraph when she knew he was guilty. If you think about it, which one has committed the bigger crimes against women. I watched the first debate, and can't believe that Trump didn't make more of Hilary trying to out Obama as non-American when she was running against him for the Democrat nomination.

I think American politics needs a shake up like only a Trump victory would provide.

You are SO right about Hillary. She is a very dishonest person. In some of the emails that were released this week, you see more of her dishonesty:

Hillary: "you need both a public and a private position.”

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/hilla ... z4MW3e8q1e

She says clearly that she will tell the boys in the backroom one thing, and then tell the public a lie. She will tell them the opposite of what she intends to do. She'll do anything to get elected. Power and money hungry. Greed for money and greed for power.

She was not good for our country while she was in Congress. She was very bad for our country as Secretary of State. She will be very bad for our country even if not elected.

[Lucyhere]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... p-emerges/

Any more questions?

Republicans have been distancing themselves for months ... now they are running.

And this is not to say Hillary is without her faults. But, between a Donald presidency and a Hillary presidency, there is no contest.

Unless something totally unexpected pops up in the next few weeks (which is extremely doubtful), HRC will be the next POTUS.

[chunkyfrog]

Why not?

[PST]

I'm not sure what it even means to "drop out" at this point. Whatever Trump or the party decides, states will still elect panels of electors from lists that already exist and the electoral college will still elect a president and vice-president. There are too many sets of state laws figure out to know if the GOP could mount anything but a write-in campaign for an alternative. Nevertheless I have a prediction: Trump won't drop out, but Pence will, either tomorrow or Monday following the debate. It may just mean he says that he won't campaign and he won't serve, but he will put as much distance as he can between him and Trump within the next 48 hours.

One of the factors that convinces me of this is a statement by Hugh Hewitt, the influential conservative radio host and cable news talking head:

For the benefit of the country, the party and his family, and for his own good, [Trump] should withdraw. More and worse oppo coming.

Hewitt has been a real Trump stalwart in recent months, and insisted that Trump did well in the first debate, but he also has connections in the other party. He's not the only person saying today that we can expect more of the same, but in his case it clearly isn't mere wishful thinking, and I think he knows what he's talking about. If there is one thing that became clear yesterday, it's that video makes all the difference. Even the most horrible accusations have seemed only to convince one side and are easily dismissed by the other up to now. There have been many who charged that Trump used sexually harrassing language on other television sets. In this day and age, some of this has to be recorded. The establishment party professionals seem to anticipate this and are not contenting themselves with perfunctory criticism this time. They are deserting him today in large numbers -- not just condemning the remarks but either withdrawing endorsements, calling for a replacement, or making very cold wait-and-see statements. All of them are looking out for number one today, and they, like Hewitt, apparently think this will only get worse. Pence does not have the luxury of quietly waiting out the storm, and loyalty is about to lose out to self-righteousness. At the same time, there are many, many Trump loyalists (some of them have expressed views here) who are angry as hell at the party establishment for their desertion. I have been listening to interviews with people waiting for the Wisconsin Ryan rally that Trump was disinvited to (and Pence has decided not to attend) saying that they are there today only to heckle Ryan. So it's a tough choice for the professionals, but no one wants to be the last to take to the lifeboats, and Pence will join the stampede. That's my prediction, anyway, so you can laugh at me Tuesday.

[PEF]

I agree with this:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-0 ... ont-matter

You also have to realize that Trump is the POPULIST candidate and Hillary is the ESTABLISHMENT candidate. If you like the way things have been going for Americans and the economy the past 16 years, then you should vote for Hillary. If you want things to change, then you should vote for Trump. Me, I want things to change.

I also do not believe anything the mainstream media says because I know they are completely in the pocket of the Establishment Democrats.

[Robespierre]

Trump is garbage. He should definitely withdraw. I trust Clinton infinitely more than I trust Trump.

[49er]

I agree with this:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-0 ... ont-matter

You also have to realize that Trump is the POPULIST candidate and Hillary is the ESTABLISHMENT candidate. If you like the way things have been going for Americans and the economy the past 16 years, then you should vote for Hillary. If you want things to change, then you should vote for Trump. Me, I want things to change.

I also do not believe anything the mainstream media says because I know they are completely in the pocket of the Establishment Democrats.

I think it is all perspective regarding whose pocket the mainstream media is in. Some of us folks call CNN, Conservative News Network.

Hmm, Germans wanted a change when Hitler came to power. Be careful what you wish for.

[Sylvia54]

I agree with this:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-0 ... ont-matter

You also have to realize that Trump is the POPULIST candidate and Hillary is the ESTABLISHMENT candidate. If you like the way things have been going for Americans and the economy the past 16 years, then you should vote for Hillary. If you want things to change, then you should vote for Trump. Me, I want things to change.

I also do not believe anything the mainstream media says because I know they are completely in the pocket of the Establishment Democrats.

I think it is all perspective regarding whose pocket the mainstream media is in. Some of us folks call CNN, Conservative News Network.

Hmm, Germans wanted a change when Hitler came to power. Be careful what you wish for.

I would say Hillary would be a much bigger threat to our freedom than Trump.
Her campaign is being heavily funded by the likes of billionaire globalist George Soros. Look him up and see what you think.

[Sylvia54]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... p-emerges/

Any more questions?

Republicans have been distancing themselves for months ... now they are running.

And this is not to say Hillary is without her faults. But, between a Donald presidency and a Hillary presidency, there is no contest.

Unless something totally unexpected pops up in the next few weeks (which is extremely doubtful), HRC will be the next POTUS.

Were you born yesterday?
Trump is the typical red blooded heterosexual man who came out and said out loud (in private conversation) what most other men think to themselves.

Even Jimmy Carter from Dixieland said this out loud in an interview:

"PLAYBOY INTERVIEW: In an interview published in the November 1976 issue of Playboy magazine, then-Governor Carter talked about the role of religion in his life. In one part he said:

" I try not to commit a deliberate sin. I recognize that I'm going to do it anyhow, because I'm human and I'm tempted. And Christ set some almost impossible standards for us. Christ said, 'I tell you that anyone who looks on a woman with lust has in his heart already committed adultery.'
"I've looked on a lot of women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times. This is something that God recognizes I will do--and I have done it--and God forgives me for it."

Yes, Trump has a big mouth and likes to brag. And that's just the macho American personality we need to make up for 8 years of tolerating a pandering type leader who traveled the world bowing and apologizing to unfriendly countries. I'm tired of watching our country deteriorate while other countries walk all over us. In these times, we NEED a male type leader with lots of backbone or we're through!

[PEF]

You got it, Sylvia. Can anyone deny that income inequality has literally exploded under Bush and Obama? Funny I seem to remember Obama promising to discipline big banks and financial speculators for causing the 2008 crisis and to help the "folks" dig out. But, after he was elected, the Oligarchs got richer and richer. How did that happen or haven't people noticed?

Hillary is cut from the same cloth, she wants to please these people because she craves power and money. Did anyone read the leaked transcripts from her speeches to the Wall Street titans where she admits to be an aspiring elitist and that she does not identify with the struggling middle class? And how about the part where she says you have to have to have "private" and public" policies? She as much as admits she is lying to the folks at her rallies.

Sure, Donald is not too savory either, but at least the deep state oligarchs don't trust him. I like that!

[Lucyhere]

Were you born yesterday?


"PLAYBOY INTERVIEW: In an interview published in the November 1976 issue of Playboy magazine, then-Governor Carter talked about the role of religion in his life. In one part he said:

" I try not to commit a deliberate sin. I recognize that I'm going to do it anyhow, because I'm human and I'm tempted. And Christ set some almost impossible standards for us. Christ said, 'I tell you that anyone who looks on a woman with lust has in his heart already committed adultery.'
"I've looked on a lot of women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times. This is something that God recognizes I will do--and I have done it--and God forgives me for it.

Nope... I wasn't born yesterday. Though I may have been born around the time that you fell on your head.

How anyone can put President Carter and Drump in the same sentence should be ashamed. President Carter is a decent human being, and a man with a conscience ... Drump is a Pig... which is shorthand for saying everything that's already been said about him.

It doesn't matter though... HRC will be the next POTUS.


*I agree with PST... the next several days should be very telling in more ways than one.

[mommydear]

He's not going to drop out. He will ride it till the wheels fall off. Why anyone is shocked by what was released on that audio is beyond me. He's been doing & saying these things for years. Any woman on here that thinks it's not a big deal condones it but, in the same breath you want men to respect you. REALLY. You're just stupid. Trump @ age 60 (@the time) said he grabs women by the pussy & he can do that because he's famous. So you think a RAPIST should be POTUS. Change is your reasoning? So if he comes up your daughter & just starts to kiss her & grab her by her pussy you think that's ok? (that is what you're saying BTW) What a stupid bunch you are. It is the condoning of his behavior & those like him that make hard prosecute rapist & put the victims on trial for being raped. I guess you think the Stanford swim team student that sexually assaulted an intoxicated unconscious girl that his 6 month sentence of which he only did 3 was ok too.

[Bill44133]

I am glad I am in the last half of my life and not on the first half... These are some scary times we live in.