Early morning loose stools from APNEA or UARS?

[palerider]

You should be afraid.

best to be afraid of D.H.'s posts.

[allchokedup]

You say currently not treating for OSA... you're not on Cpap then? Why not if you need to be (getting up a few times to pee is a classic symptom, usually disappears within few days on Cpap).

I've never heard of diarrhea being a problem however, so would go back to your MD on that. Again, why aren't you on Cpap - or have you not had a sleep study yet?

Leave magnesium out of it for the moment - it's the least of your worries. I take it for other reasons, but only a small amt daily and it doesn't affect bathroom habits.

Hi...

I was diagnosed via home study about 2 years ago, tried CPAP, it was a nightmare, so I quit. I'm scheduled to see an ENT to see what they think about my throat and tongue etc.

To be clear, the magnesium is being excreted, whether I take any or not. It's a very important mineral, and I don't want to become deficient (especially cuz I also have MVP and a severe mitral leak.

Thanks!
-m

Interesting. I also have sleep apnea, MPV, and otherwise unexplained early morning loose stool, like everything goes through me too fast. This has improved somewhat after starting cpap. Sleep apnea affects my nervous system in a big way and seems to speed everything up. (For awhile I thought I had hyperthyroid but thyroid tests normal). Three years ago I was checked out by a gastro clinic, drank the moviprep stuff for a colonoscopy. That night, low and behold, I slept through the night for the first time in months that year. I knew there was something in that moviprep that did it, probably magnesium? Then for the following 10 days or so, I actually slept 7-8 hrs a night and felt pretty good before the insomnia started back up. I started on cpap a few months ago and progress with sleep, etc is slow and intermittent. It has helped my restless legs and numbness disappear most of the time now. Hope the ENT can help you. My ENT told me I have overcrowding at the back of my mouth. I'm sure it's a small airway that causes my sleep breathing disorder. Maybe it's more like UARS than sleep apnea. Like some others who post here, I had crowded teeth and orthodontic treatment as a teenager.

Hi..

Very interesting. I'm also very "tightly wound" it would seem. I've read some about dysautonomia and MVP Syndrome other nervous system stuff that could be the cause. Do you know what's in the colon stuff? I'm supposed to have a scope job, too, but I'm too stressed out right now. How bad is your valve? Any regurgitation?

Thanks!
-m

[Julie]

Look, you're getting way off course and that stuff may be interesting, but it won't help you now. Please... concentrate . If you can afford an inexpensive machine you can titrate yourself at home without a 'study'. Can you do that - we'll tell you what to get where.

[allchokedup]

Look, you're getting way off course and that stuff may be interesting, but it won't help you now. Please... concentrate . If you can afford an inexpensive machine you can titrate yourself at home without a 'study'. Can you do that - we'll tell you what to get where.

I'm trying to prioritize and take thing one at a time. Right now I'm almost incapacitated with anxiety and fear about whether I'm "up" for any of it.

Facing heart surgery (to fix leaky valve)
Still getting treated for pain from car accident 2.5 years ago.
Had chronic lyme diagnosis a few years ago, was treated, but don't really know if it's still a factor..
Weak adrenals, low stress tolerance
Apnea
Chronic loose stools and nocturia
Anemia

Other than that, I'm pretty healthy! (ha). At least I LOOK healthy.

Thanks!
-m

[Julie]

Hi, I recommend that you first get a summing up of your overall med. situation either from your GP or another one... unless you know where you stand now, it'll be hard to go forward. Second, I would get referred to a psychologist specializing in cognitive behaviour therapy (CBT), and most do that these days, because that program can go surprisingly quickly and be very effective in anxiety problems. Look up CBT on the net and you'll learn a lot just by doing that. Telling you that little old ladies and actual babies are on Cpap won't help you until you address your problems.

[49er]

Hi, I recommend that you first get a summing up of your overall med. situation either from your GP or another one... unless you know where you stand now, it'll be hard to go forward. Second, I would get referred to a psychologist specializing in cognitive behaviour therapy (CBT), and most do that these days, because that program can go surprisingly quickly and be very effective in anxiety problems. Look up CBT on the net and you'll learn a lot just by doing that. Telling you that little old ladies and actual babies are on Cpap won't help you until you address your problems.

Julie,

You might want to look at this thread in case you haven't.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=113858&st=0&sk=t&sd=a#p1100570

I suggested to allchoked up that he read an article on the role of the epiglottis that may be contributing to the choking sensation that he experiences which prevents the successful use of cpap. Allchokedup feels this might be applicable to his situation. If it is, then CBT while a useful therapy in many cases will not be helpful regarding this situation. It would be like putting a bandaid on a wound that requires several stitches.

49er

[Julie]

49er - it's absolutely possible that the epiglottal thing is his problem... but until he's diagnosed with it (it is pretty rare) he shouldn't assume that's the trouble and should still get his whole medical picture sorted out (e.g. either he does or does not still have the effects of Lyme disease) and because he's very anxious, even if it turns out to have a real reason for it, would benefit from some therapy.

He might also want to look into something called 'globus hystericus', Google will tell him a lot (it's not uncommon at all).

[avi123]

Michael, if you suffer from a Sleep Disorder it could explain the nocturnal urination. But none of your reasons explain the diarrheas. Go see any MD or OD physic1an. I would not follow advice from posters on this website.

[palerider]

I would not follow advice from posters on this website.

most especially, anything from the raving lunatic avi123.

[Julie]

+1

[chunkyfrog]

+1,000

[palerider]

I do like how he flat out tells people to disregard what he says...

[chunkyfrog]

Probably HIS abundantly loose stools . . .

[Julie]

[Sylvia54]

Hi..

Very interesting. I'm also very "tightly wound" it would seem. I've read some about dysautonomia and MVP Syndrome other nervous system stuff that could be the cause. Do you know what's in the colon stuff? I'm supposed to have a scope job, too, but I'm too stressed out right now. How bad is your valve? Any regurgitation?

Thanks!
-m

I don't think my MPV is serious. I notice where I feel my heart pounding and feeling alittle off beat when I've had less sleep. I get an ultra sound to check it every year or every other year but they never say anything. I don't know what moviprep contains, couldn't find it on the internet. I'm pretty sure it contains magnesium just like Milk of Magnesia laxative. Best to ask your gastro Dr.

Meanwhile you really need to get a handle on your fear and anxiety. There's nothing to fear but fear itself. Get some relaxation CD's, listen to soothing music, look into CBT, take a yoga class, whatever you can afford. Just do it. Living like that will ruin your health.