Periodic Breathing - What's Acceptable

[Holden4th]

OK, problem semi-solved. I got a full 8 hours out of the machine last night. I did the following before starting therapy.

Turned on the ramp feature to kick in at 9 for five minutes

Disabled auto off

Replaced the power cord so that I wasn't using an adaptor to fit the US plug.

While it was a full 8 hours it was divided into 14 separate sessions and you can see where the machine either didn't record or just stopped. I got up once during the night.

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I felt better this morning but not as good as I have with the S9.

Do I have a faulty machine?

I'm also having issues with Sleepyhead. Somehow I've managed to remove the function of the top menu buttons. There is no close or minimise and this is after a reinstall. I click on File/View/Help/etc and nothing happens. I am using 1.02 Beta.

[palerider]

Do I have a faulty machine?

I'm also having issues with Sleepyhead. Somehow I've managed to remove the function of the top menu buttons. There is no close or minimise and this is after a reinstall. I click on File/View/Help/etc and nothing happens. I am using 1.02 Beta.

get encore, check the data. sleepyhead is buggy. it gives you the majority of information ok, but, it is buggy.

[Jay Aitchsee]

Holden, I don't think your machine is faulty or that what you are seeing is necessarily due to bugs in SleepyHead, but do get Encore and have a look. What you are seeing is not unique it has been reported before. Did you review this thread and my experiment? You could try the experiment yourself during the day by running the machine with your mask on for a couple of minutes then blocking the flow thru the pillow with your fingers for a couple of minutes, start breathing thru the mask again before shutting down and then have a look at the results in Sleepyhead. Make sure the SleepyHead "Ignore short sessions" settings (preferences/import) isn't greater than the experiment time.

Apparently, from Robysue's post in the above thread, Respironics machines have a "Breathing Not Detected" (BND) flag. Turning that on, if available, might also provide a clue.

I am a little suspicious of the Dreamwear mask. When I experienced similar flow interruptions it was while wearing the Dreamwear. You might try another mask, if you have one.

Your trouble with the SleepyHead menu display sounds like it's in "full screen" and won't revert back. That's been reported, but I don't remember the fix.

[Pugsy]

Respironics machines have a "Breathing Not Detected" (BND) flag. Turning that on, if available, might also provide a clue.

There's nothing to turn on or off with the BND flagging...the machine will do it if breathing isn't detected.
It's just part of the flagging similar to ResMed's "machine on but no breathing detected" reporting.
It's not something you have to turn on or off to get the reporting...it's just part of the overall reporting like FLs, OAs, etc.

While it was a full 8 hours it was divided into 14 separate sessions and you can see where the machine either didn't record or just stopped.

I still can't see your images. Did you get Encore to verify?
If you will send me a copy of your SD card I can run my Encore and my SleepyHead and see if the missing data is a bug or not.
I need a complete copy of the SD card though...a mirror image so that I can put it on a blank SD card to use with Encore.

We really need to verify with Encore as to possible bugs or machine problems because of what is involved in returning the machine...the sooner the better.

I really need to see the reports you are seeing...it may be that the settings that were successful on the S9 need to be slightly altered on the PR S1 machine. The algorithms between the 2 machines are different so it may be that we need a little pressure change.

[Jay Aitchsee]

Apparently, from Robysue's post in the above thread, Respironics machines have a "Breathing Not Detected" (BND) flag. Turning that on, if available, might also provide a clue.

There's nothing to turn on or off with the BND flagging...the machine will do it if breathing isn't detected.It's just part of the flagging similar to ResMed's "machine on but no breathing detected" reporting.It's not something you have to turn on or off to get the reporting...it's just part of the overall reporting like FLs, OAs, etc.

Thank you, Pugsy. Since there was no BND channel displayed in the Holden's Events Flag Graph, I thought it might have to be selected in SleepyHead Preferences.

[palerider]

Apparently, from Robysue's post in the above thread, Respironics machines have a "Breathing Not Detected" (BND) flag. Turning that on, if available, might also provide a clue.

There's nothing to turn on or off with the BND flagging...the machine will do it if breathing isn't detected.It's just part of the flagging similar to ResMed's "machine on but no breathing detected" reporting.It's not something you have to turn on or off to get the reporting...it's just part of the overall reporting like FLs, OAs, etc.

Thank you, Pugsy. Since there was no BND channel displayed in the Holden's Events Flag Graph, I thought it might have to be selected in SleepyHead Preferences.

by default, it's on, but doesn't show the line in the flags unless there's one been flagged. (depending on sheepyhead version).

[Holden4th]

The problem has not been fixed unfortunately. There were larger periods where the machine apparently stopped and I felt it today. I still have the loaner and will use that tonight.

Can I send a file folder via the messaging system here on this forum. I'm going to try

I now strongly suspect that this is a machine fault but am happy to be proved wrong.

I'll edit this file after trying to message Pugsy and add the SD Card files. It's quite small.

EDIT

Couldn't find a way to post the contents of the card using the PM system. I'll have to use e-mail I think. Any other suggestions?

[Pugsy]

The contents of the SD card aren't very large but I need all of them in the exact order on your card to use Encore.
Easiest way to do it so that I get everything I need and in correct order is to go to the SD card and you should see a main folder with a lot of other files/folders in it.
Don't go into the folder and try to send individual files. Instead just highlight that main file when you first go into the SD card and right click mouse and copy the entire main folder and save it to someplace easy to find on your computer.
Then send me an email with that copied main folder attached. It shouldn't be too large for email but if it is then just compress/zip it and send the zipped main folder.

To use Encore I have to be using a SD card and can't do like I do with SH and just use the data file folder.

Let's see what Encore shows and go from there.

[Jay Aitchsee]

The contents of the SD card aren't very large but I need all of them in the exact order on your card to use Encore.Easiest way to do it so that I get everything I need and in correct order is to go to the SD card and you should see a main folder with a lot of other files/folders in it.Don't go into the folder and try to send individual files. Instead just highlight that main file when you first go into the SD card and right click mouse and copy the entire main folder and save it to someplace easy to find on your computer.Then send me an email with that copied main folder attached. It shouldn't be too large for email but if it is then just compress/zip it and send the zipped main folder.To use Encore I have to be using a SD card and can't do like I do with SH and just use the data file folder.Let's see what Encore shows and go from there.

Another alternative is to copy the SD card (right click on the drive with the SD card inserted) to a shared Dropbox, One Drive, or other cloud folder location. From there it can be opened directly with SleepyHead or copied to an SD card for Encore (or ResScan, if applicable). Once set up, new data can be uploaded with a repeat copy and paste.

By right clicking on the unopened Drive, the entire card can be copied intact.

One person with cloud storage just has to grant share (read and write) authorization of a folder to the other.

[Holden4th]

I've got Dropbox and also Google Drive.

I'll try Pugsy's first suggestion.

I've gone back to the S9 loaner and there were none of the issues reported on the Remstar. I also diodn't feel that good today but hve attributed this to a series of days with not so good therapy.

What colour is the heated hose on the Remstar - the rings in mine are white (should they be red) so I am wondering if this is the correct hose and if it's not have I got the hose setting wrong. Just looking for all the possible solutions.

[palerider]

I've got Dropbox and also Google Drive.

I'll try Pugsy's first suggestion.

I've gone back to the S9 loaner and there were none of the issues reported on the Remstar. I also diodn't feel that good today but hve attributed this to a series of days with not so good therapy.

What colour is the heated hose on the Remstar - the rings in mine are white (should they be red) so I am wondering if this is the correct hose and if it's not have I got the hose setting wrong. Just looking for all the possible solutions.

it's the one with an electrical connection on the end. it's possible there's different color hoses, since the color doesn't matter.

[Holden4th]

Yep, three electrical pins in the top of the connector - is that right?

Scratch out another theory.

[palerider]

Yep, three electrical pins in the top of the connector - is that right?

Scratch out another theory.

er, non-heated (plain) hoses have no electrical connections, just rubbery ends.