Apnea cured by playing wind instruments?

[Colonel-Cactus]

Talked to some people and watched some videos. Playing certain musical instruments can strengthen muscles in your blow hole. Not just lung capacity but the command and control part where apnea happens, throat and airways.

Any thoughts on this? I'm trying to find cures while you guys are just tuning your machines. Is it that you all went down this road and every "cure" or alternative treatment failed? Or are you just making the best of what a doctor told you.

[palerider]

Talked to some people and watched some videos. Playing certain musical instruments can strengthen muscles in your blow hole. Not just lung capacity but the command and control part where apnea happens, throat and airways.

Any thoughts on this? I'm trying to find cures while you guys are just tuning your machines. Is it that you all went down this road and every "cure" or alternative treatment failed? Or are you just making the best of what a doctor told you.

doesn't matter how strong you are if you relax in your sleep... which you do.

[LSAT]

Search Didgeridoo for posts....also...http://www.didgeridoostore.co/didgerido ... hgod8bkK1Q

[BlackSpinner]

There is a minimal change depending on the structure of your throat.

It would be like expecting to use a cheap inflatable toy instead of a certified life jacket while on the Titanic.

[Goofproof]

Keep paddling in De-Nile, it won't make you better, but others can watch you Circle the Drain until you drown in De-Nile. It may keep them alive. Jim

[ChicagoGranny]

I'm trying to find cures while you guys are just tuning your machines.

I highly recommend a didgeridoo. Gramps bought one when he found out he had sleep apnea. He got a large expensive one that was painted by an artist. It makes a nice curio standing in the back corner of his home office.

That reminds me, I need to take it outside and blow the dust out of it with the leaf blower.

[Wulfman...]

Talked to some people and watched some videos. Playing certain musical instruments can strengthen muscles in your blow hole. Not just lung capacity but the command and control part where apnea happens, throat and airways.

Any thoughts on this? I'm trying to find cures while you guys are just tuning your machines. Is it that you all went down this road and every "cure" or alternative treatment failed? Or are you just making the best of what a doctor told you.

Do some research!
You sound extremely clueless, sarcastic, and condescending for someone who just started therapy.

viewtopic/t112190/search.php?keywords=didgeridoo

You're living in denial (DeNile). And, you need to do some logical thinking and determine just what is causing your OSA.
Clues......it's NOT ALWAYS in the throat part of the airways........and excess weight doesn't necessarily cause it either.


Den

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[jim22]

I'm not a proffessional, but in the last few years I have played clarinet, saxophone, and now oboe. It's gotta be good for something, but certainly hasn't fixed my sleep apnea. I wouldn't have had the initiative to learn all those instruments without my CPAP.

[chunkyfrog]

Of all the steps of grief, denial is the most infuriating; while bargaining is the most entertaining.
Unless, of course, you are forced to watch a loved one deteriorate and eventually succumb
to a disorder for which the solution is so simple.
Use the cpap. Wear the mask. Stop being a silly goose.

[Grace~~~]

I'm trying to find cures while you guys are just tuning your machines.

I highly recommend a didgeridoo. Gramps bought one when he found out he had sleep apnea. He got a large expensive one that was painted by an artist. It makes a nice curio standing in the back corner of his home office.

That reminds me, I need to take it outside and blow the dust out of it with the leaf blower.

I am definitely getting a didgeridoo. I am just pondering designs details myself, ChicagoGranny. I have bamboo in the yard too, so I may try to make one? I think it will look great next to my kendo stick (bo?). I haven't thought of that stick in a while. I flew back to the east coast with a gorgeous boy from San Jose who was on an Olympic Kendo Team or something. (Inspired me) I need to find some other old ladies who want to stick fight me. Then we can blow the didgeridoo to cool down and ride the vibe. Hot Yoga is so 2012, right?

In the meantime I am thinking alot about leak graphs and how to make them read flat-lined and zero and trying to comprehend the dreaded technology and learning terms like 'hosting sites?' that will allow me to upload sleepyhead data here so I can get the best from 'fine tuning' my cpap. (apap)

One silly thing I've been trying to figure out is if the words cpap and apap are kinda interchangeable? If apap is a type of cpap which term is usually used in posts. The more specific or the more general?

[palerider]

One silly thing I've been trying to figure out is if the words cpap and apap are kinda interchangeable? If apap is a type of cpap which term is usually used in posts. The more specific or the more general?

cpap is more generic, apap is a subset.

[Grace~~~]

One silly thing I've been trying to figure out is if the words cpap and apap are kinda interchangeable? If apap is a type of cpap which term is usually used in posts. The more specific or the more general?

cpap is more generic, apap is a subset.

So, for example, in my (blonde) sentence earlier

" ...that will allow me to upload sleepyhead data here so I can get the best from 'fine tuning' my cpap. (apap)"



Would one be more likely to just say cpap? Or is it better to be more specific and say apap?
....but could really become an issue for people who use their apaps as cpaps.
(Is there even an acronym for that?) apapascpap?

I realize these are irrelevant thoughts, but as I am still overwhelmed with the bigger picture, I like pretending I am learning and at least mastering the nuances of the lingo and posts on cpaptalks.

[palerider]

I realize these are irrelevant thoughts, but as I am still overwhelmed with the bigger picture, I like pretending I am learning and at least mastering the nuances of the lingo and posts on cpaptalks.

mostly. but it does lessen the confusion if one uses less generic terms when trying to communicate.

you could just be even more specific and say 'on my autoset'.

[Wulfman...]

One silly thing I've been trying to figure out is if the words cpap and apap are kinda interchangeable? If apap is a type of cpap which term is usually used in posts. The more specific or the more general?

cpap is more generic, apap is a subset.

So, for example, in my (blonde) sentence earlier

" ...that will allow me to upload sleepyhead data here so I can get the best from 'fine tuning' my cpap. (apap)"



Would one be more likely to just say cpap? Or is it better to be more specific and say apap?
....but could really become an issue for people who use their apaps as cpaps.
(Is there even an acronym for that?) apapascpap?

I realize these are irrelevant thoughts, but as I am still overwhelmed with the bigger picture, I like pretending I am learning and at least mastering the nuances of the lingo and posts on cpaptalks.

Well, APAP is an "Auto-titrating" or "Auto-adjusting" CPAP. From my readings of their history, they were primarily developed for titrating patients (like home sleep studies) who had troubles getting a formal sleep study in a lab. Then, the doctor used the data to try to come up with a single pressure for the patient on a straight pressure CPAP.
Somewhere along the line, they became more popular and were marketed for people to use on a nightly basis. Presumably they would adjust to the user's needs during the night.

For years, we've used "XPAP" on the forum to collectively group any of the devices used for these purposes......everything from straight CPAP to sophisticated bi-level/BiPAP machines.

Anything you want to use as an acronym will be just fine!


Den

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[Grace~~~]

Oh, I LIKE those two answers!

~~~ on my autoset
~~~ xpap

I will be sounding 'apnea educated' in NO TIME
Thank you. I need all the help I can get~~~


Also, thanks Den for the history lesson. That is really interesting.

Since I never had a titration study I wonder how much of it is an 'arte form' and how much is 'scientific' in finding that correct constant pressure?

Would folks going to multiple different studies in different states (or countries) be likely to have very different results? Could one study say they needed 4 and another 15? And did this happen a lot? Or were they usually pretty close?


It is optimum to always try and use the lowest possible pressure that will attain the desired results, right?
What are the dangers of overdoing pressure?

Will it make you weaker in any way?