Regarding Rumors of New Hybrid Parts

[DreamStalker]

roberto and others:

the shell sample has six holes, just as the regular one does, and each hole in the shell sample is twice the size of the ones in the regular shell. By my calculations, that means the shell sample reduces the amount of air going out by 50%.

Caroline -

Now you are saying that the sample(beta) shell has holes "twice" the size of the original .... that is opposite of what you posted previously stating that sample(beta) shell has holes size of 1/16 and original(sold product)has 1/8 ... [1/16 is one-half smaller than 1/8].

So uhhhh ... which is it? I guess I could measure mine and deduce the answer but I am away from home right now.

Also, the reduction in air is not linear (ie. half size holes does NOT mean air reduction by half). Area is calculated as PI times radius squared. So the difference is: if you halve the hole diameter, you reduce the area to 25% of original or if you double the hole diameter, you increase area by 4 times ... make sense?

Actually it is a little more complex than that because the machine's pressure setting also has a non-linear relationship to the exhaust air flow such that: as pressure is increased, the exhaust flow also increases exponentially when holding the exhaust hole area constant ... so you have to consider both area of holes and the pressure [Probably way more info than most want to know ... unless you are a geek like me ].

Thanks again for clearing things up,

- roberto

[ladytonya]

I was not trying to start a rumor. Previous posts from people who have spoken with the Hybrid people since they stopped giving out the beta gear implied that once they release new headgear in production quantities that it will be charged for. It sounded like it would be an alternative to the headgear that comes with the Hybrid instead of replacing it. Anyway, I definitely didn't mean to imply that they would charge, I was simply stating that I hope they DON'T charge and that they ship the new and improved headgear with new masks so it won't even be an issue any more.

[chdurie2]

roberto--

ooooops! ach of the six holes in the sample shell have a diameter of 1/16 of an inch, whereas each of the six holes in the regular shell have a diameter of 18 of an inch.

that clear things up?

caroline

[DreamStalker]

roberto--

ooooops! ach of the six holes in the sample shell have a diameter of 1/16 of an inch, whereas each of the six holes in the regular shell have a diameter of 18 of an inch.

that clear things up?

caroline

Yep! all clear ... basically folks without the new shell are not missing out on anything special.

How is the lower exhaust beta shell working out for you? Didn't you state somewhere that your Rx is for 9 cm?

Take care,

- roberto

[greyhound - guest]

couldn't you tape over 3 or 4 of the 6 exhaust holes and end up where you would be with the "new" shell (haven't done the math)?

[motherall]

Who said they were charging anything ... this is how RUMORS get started.

- roberto

I was definitely told by Customer Service on Monday when i called that I could buy the improved headgear in a couple months. I asked about the people who had already gotten replacements and was told she knew nothing about that. No help for me and no workable contact number on either the Innomed or Textron websites for the Hybrid. Does anyone have a working email address to complain to?

[DreamStalker]

Who said they were charging anything ... this is how RUMORS get started.

- roberto

I was definitely told by Customer Service on Monday when i called that I could buy the improved headgear in a couple months. I asked about the people who had already gotten replacements and was told she knew nothing about that. No help for me and no workable contact number on either the Innomed or Textron websites for the Hybrid. Does anyone have a working email address to complain to?

http://www.hybridmask.com/contact_us.htm

- r

[chdurie2]

roberto--

although one night is a little soon to be forming a conclusion about the smaller holes, i don't think that they're doing anything for me. but that's me.

my cpap titration is 8 on a test that didn't go any higher than 8. but my sleep doc is willing to buy that it might be higher than 8. he set it for 6 to 10. i'm using it at 6 to 12. my ahi numbers are 1-3,, although i'm starting to see an apnea number of up to .5AI. That's why I stopped at 12, although the machine will use higher pressure if I let it.

But with Hybrid, today i had an 18 AHI. i thought i was seeing things.

but maybe smaller holes will help others.

caroline