HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

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HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

Post by jameslv-nv » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:20 pm

Long story short.. my machine has sat for over a year without usage. I realize I MUST start using as my body is feeling it.

I used it last night and it seems to not be tracking my AHI numbers. I took 2 screen shots so you can see what I see when
I went to check my results.

Do I need to reset it somehow and if so how?

It seems it shows the correct time I used it about 3.5hrs maybe 4 as I did not put it back on when I got up for a bathroom trip.

Really appreciate any help and suggestions as I know I can not ignore this any longer.

Thank you!

IMAGES OF MY S9 SCREENS http://s560.photobucket.com/user/vegast ... eshow/cpap

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Re: HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

Post by Julie » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:24 pm

Most machines only track 4 hrs or more, don't consider 3.5 hrs as a session.

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Re: HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

Post by palerider » Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:16 pm

jameslv-nv wrote:Long story short.. my machine has sat for over a year without usage. I realize I MUST start using as my body is feeling it.

I used it last night and it seems to not be tracking my AHI numbers. I took 2 screen shots so you can see what I see when
I went to check my results.

Do I need to reset it somehow and if so how?

It seems it shows the correct time I used it about 3.5hrs maybe 4 as I did not put it back on when I got up for a bathroom trip.

Really appreciate any help and suggestions as I know I can not ignore this any longer.
download sleepyhead and read the data off your SD card.

if you look at the machine display after noon, (it's time) it's already reset for the next day.

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Re: HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

Post by jameslv-nv » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:08 pm

Julie wrote:Most machines only track 4 hrs or more, don't consider 3.5 hrs as a session.
Thank you Julie I did not realize that

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Re: HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

Post by Julie » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:15 pm

I should have put that a bit better - it's not that they won't track stats, but under 4 hrs is not considered meaningful as a picture of your sleep, and certainly is not accepted as 'compliance' when it comes to e.g. insurance paying for machines, but I do believe some may still report something for sessions of <4 hrs - just don't know the circumstances where that might happen.

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Re: HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

Post by jameslv-nv » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:16 pm

Much appreciated.. not heard of sleepyhead before.. will take a look as I dont have software to read my machine info and
realize it's a good thing to do.


palerider wrote:
jameslv-nv wrote:Long story short.. my machine has sat for over a year without usage. I realize I MUST start using as my body is feeling it.

I used it last night and it seems to not be tracking my AHI numbers. I took 2 screen shots so you can see what I see when
I went to check my results.

Do I need to reset it somehow and if so how?

It seems it shows the correct time I used it about 3.5hrs maybe 4 as I did not put it back on when I got up for a bathroom trip.

Really appreciate any help and suggestions as I know I can not ignore this any longer.
download sleepyhead and read the data off your SD card.

if you look at the machine display after noon, (it's time) it's already reset for the next day.

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Re: HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

Post by jameslv-nv » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:47 pm

Julie wrote:I should have put that a bit better - it's not that they won't track stats, but under 4 hrs is not considered meaningful as a picture of your sleep, and certainly is not accepted as 'compliance' when it comes to e.g. insurance paying for machines, but I do believe some may still report something for sessions of <4 hrs - just don't know the circumstances where that might happen.
Makes sense on the 4hrs interval. I paid out of pocket for my machine back in 2011 just could not get myself to using it. I'm a stomach sleeper
and always extremely restless sleeper so between the mask, the bed and I we found it more than difficult to get along!

Unfortunately sleeping on my stomach I believe has caused some other issues 1 primarily a pinched nerve from the pressure I was putting on my neck
and possible back problems.

Now I have to
1. Make sure I put the mask back on after getting up and forcing a full night even if I don't sleep.
2. Figure out how to use and read this sleepyhead software.

For some reason the date sleepyhead software shows as last time I used S9 was in August of 2016!
I checked my machine and the date is correct only the time was an hour off so I've corrected the time.

Anyway.. thanks for taking time.

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Re: HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

Post by robysue » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:57 pm

Julie wrote:I should have put that a bit better - it's not that they won't track stats, but under 4 hrs is not considered meaningful as a picture of your sleep, and certainly is not accepted as 'compliance' when it comes to e.g. insurance paying for machines, but I do believe some may still report something for sessions of <4 hrs - just don't know the circumstances where that might happen.
Compliance time and session time are very different critters. And CPAPs keep track of both.

Loosely, a "session" is any time the machine is turned on and breathing is detected. Compliance is defined as a total of at least 4 hours of use in a 24 hour period. Compliance can bev(and often is) broken across multiple sessions.

For example, in a typical night of my data, I have anywhere between 3 and 10 sessions: I wake up a lot at night and I routinely turn my machine off and back on due to problems with pressure-induced aerophagia. Some of my sessions are as short as 20-30 minutes (if I'm having a great deal of trouble getting or staying asleep) and my longest sessions are typically around 2.5 hours. On a good night, most of my sessions are roughly 90-110 minutes long---as in I typically wake up enough to turn my machine off and back on after every full sleep cycle. Occasionally I get a stretch of 3 hours between wakes, but that's unusual.

However, my compliance is essentially 100%: I sleep 100% of the time with my CPAP mask on my nose and I'm now averaging around 5.5 and 6.5 hours of time in bed each night and my mask is on the entire time I'm in the bed. I still have a few nights now and then where I'm in bed for less than 4 hours, and those are the nights that my machine thinks I'm "not compliant".

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Re: HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

Post by jameslv-nv » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:37 pm

palerider I see we use similar machines.

My understanding is that when using the full facemask with S9 the auto on and off feature of S9 does not work.

What I'm wondering is.. when I need to get up during night should I turn off/shut down my machine before removing mask and when I return
back to place mask on then power it back on again?

Common sense says I would as if I left it running it would give crazy off the wall readings. LOL

Just making sure as it's been many years since I got machine and needing to relearn this stuff.

Thanks again everyone for your input!



palerider wrote:
jameslv-nv wrote:Long story short.. my machine has sat for over a year without usage. I realize I MUST start using as my body is feeling it.

I used it last night and it seems to not be tracking my AHI numbers. I took 2 screen shots so you can see what I see when
I went to check my results.

Do I need to reset it somehow and if so how?

It seems it shows the correct time I used it about 3.5hrs maybe 4 as I did not put it back on when I got up for a bathroom trip.

Really appreciate any help and suggestions as I know I can not ignore this any longer.
download sleepyhead and read the data off your SD card.

if you look at the machine display after noon, (it's time) it's already reset for the next day.

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Re: HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

Post by robysue » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:49 pm

jameslv-nv wrote: My understanding is that when using the full facemask with S9 the auto on and off feature of S9 does not work.

What I'm wondering is.. when I need to get up during night should I turn off/shut down my machine before removing mask and when I return
back to place mask on then power it back on again?

Common sense says I would as if I left it running it would give crazy off the wall readings.
If the bathroom break is short, it doesn't really matter in the long run as far as the data is concerned. Yes, you'll get a large leak/breathing not detected flag for the time that the machine is blowing, but you're not attached to it. But it won't likely be long enough to cause Mr. Red Frowny Face to show up on the machine's LCD and it won't really affect the computation of the AHI numbers in a statistically significant fashion.

Personally, both I and hubby (who is also a PAPer) prefer to turn our machines off when we get up in the middle of the night. That way the crazy blowing air noise doesn't wake up the other person.

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Re: HELP w ResMed S9 AutoSet NOT TRACKING

Post by palerider » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:50 pm

jameslv-nv wrote:palerider I see we use similar machines.

My understanding is that when using the full facemask with S9 the auto on and off feature of S9 does not work.

What I'm wondering is.. when I need to get up during night should I turn off/shut down my machine before removing mask and when I return
back to place mask on then power it back on again?

Common sense says I would as if I left it running it would give crazy off the wall readings. LOL
yes, mine is the bilevel version of the autoset (loosely speaking).

I've used both pillow masks and full face masks, the smartstart feature has always worked flawlessly for me. turn it on, set the mask type correctly, the machine should start after a breath or two, and stop a few seconds after the mask is off.

if you take the mask off with the machine running, it'll just blow a lot of air, and record a really bad leak, which you *can* just ignore when reviewing your data in sleepyhead. if you want to have slightly neater data, either turn it off, or let smartstart do it for you.

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