cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

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cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by awaiken » Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:48 pm

Cause for concern? I understand that AHI is a weighted score, but the number of hypopneas happening has me alarmed.. Also, I realize that an AHI score within this range considered mild compared to others with scores of 50 AHI.. but it has triggered parasomnias and seizures, so it's something that I need to keep on top of.

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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by Pugsy » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:11 pm

Not a cause for concern normally.

I don't know what your pressure settings are or when they are occurring because Sleep Mapper is so limited in the data it offers.
More useful would be to see when those hyponeas are actually getting flagged...like maybe a cluster or 2 or 3 which very well could be related to sleeping position or REM stage sleep or combination of both.

I would suggest use the software available and see exactly what is happening when those hyponeas are getting flagged and then decide if they are worth worrying about.
https://sleep.tnet.com/equipment

If there is some ugly clustering going on they usually respond quite easily to just a little more baseline pressure to better hold the airway open.
So what pressure are you using and in what mode of operation?

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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:26 pm

awaiken wrote:Cause for concern? I understand that AHI is a weighted score, but the number of hypopneas happening has me alarmed.. Also, I realize that an AHI score within this range considered mild compared to others with scores of 50 AHI.. but it has triggered parasomnias and seizures, so it's something that I need to keep on top of.
Get Sleepyhead software and use that.
DreamMapper is just about worthless as far as telling you anything about your therapy.


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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by awaiken » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:35 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
awaiken wrote:Cause for concern? I understand that AHI is a weighted score, but the number of hypopneas happening has me alarmed.. Also, I realize that an AHI score within this range considered mild compared to others with scores of 50 AHI.. but it has triggered parasomnias and seizures, so it's something that I need to keep on top of.
Get Sleepyhead software and use that.
DreamMapper is just about worthless as far as telling you anything about your therapy.


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Appreciate the tip but I'm using sleepyhead too. It's the same data being exported. I checked. I only screenshotted phillips website because of its readability.

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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:47 pm

The "Event Flags" report is the only one (showing) that's of any value (to us).
Leaks, Pressure, Summary Data would help, too.

But, I don't see much to worry about in that report.


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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by awaiken » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:09 pm

Wulfman... wrote:The "Event Flags" report is the only one (showing) that's of any value (to us).
Leaks, Pressure, Summary Data would help, too.

But, I don't see much to worry about in that report.


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Thanks Den

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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by Pugsy » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:16 pm

Click on the "Details" tab on the left and not the "Events" tab. Hide the calendar so we can see the statistics details. That events tab doesn't help much.
Include these only on the right side.
Events
Flow Rate
Pressure
Leak

So that your images look similar to these in this thread. There's also some hints on how to make the image smaller and easier to see without losing fine detail.
viewtopic/t103468/Need-help-with-screen-shots.html

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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by awaiken » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:33 pm

Pugsy wrote:Click on the "Details" tab on the left and not the "Events" tab. Hide the calendar so we can see the statistics details. That events tab doesn't help much.
Include these only on the right side.
Events
Flow Rate
Pressure
Leak

So that your images look similar to these in this thread. There's also some hints on how to make the image smaller and easier to see without losing fine detail.
viewtopic/t103468/Need-help-with-screen-shots.html
ok got it

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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by Pugsy » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:37 pm

Where are the 4 graphs from the right side that I mentioned?
Events
Flow rate
Pressure
Leak

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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by awaiken » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:49 pm

Pugsy wrote:Where are the 4 graphs from the right side that I mentioned?
Events
Flow rate
Pressure
Leak
K sorry about that

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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:14 pm

My recommendation would be to bump your pressure up 1 cm. to 9 cm. for awhile and see how that looks.


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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by awaiken » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:28 pm

Wulfman... wrote:My recommendation would be to bump your pressure up 1 cm. to 9 cm. for awhile and see how that looks.


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only my doctor can do this? my last doctor gave me the cpap, i no longer see him, i wonder if my new one can make the adjustment. why do you feel i should bump it up a notch?

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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by Wulfman... » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:19 pm

awaiken wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:My recommendation would be to bump your pressure up 1 cm. to 9 cm. for awhile and see how that looks.


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only my doctor can do this? my last doctor gave me the cpap, i no longer see him, i wonder if my new one can make the adjustment. why do you feel i should bump it up a notch?
No, you can change whatever you want in your machine (for all intents and purposes). It's YOUR machine and YOUR therapy. You have the ability to take control of your own therapy. You're the one that's sleeping with it.

Do you want to try to reduce your hypopnea events? That's what you need to do.

Do you have the clinician's manual for your machine?

If not, you can find a text version that will help you get into the menus........at this link:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=101747&p=951212&hil ... ng#p951212


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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by Papit » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:26 pm

Beautiful fish in your avatar, Wulfman. I agree with awaiken. Shouldn't be any harm in trying. That said, however, I'm in the same boat with with you. Hardly any apnea but quite a few Hypopnea every single night. So I have tried in the past what Wulfman suggests, but no significant change in my case. Here's hoping you have better luck.

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Re: cpap data: low number apneas, but large number of hypopneas

Post by awaiken » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:40 am

Wulfman... wrote:
awaiken wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:My recommendation would be to bump your pressure up 1 cm. to 9 cm. for awhile and see how that looks.


Den

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only my doctor can do this? my last doctor gave me the cpap, i no longer see him, i wonder if my new one can make the adjustment. why do you feel i should bump it up a notch?
No, you can change whatever you want in your machine (for all intents and purposes). It's YOUR machine and YOUR therapy. You have the ability to take control of your own therapy. You're the one that's sleeping with it.

Do you want to try to reduce your hypopnea events? That's what you need to do.

Do you have the clinician's manual for your machine?

If not, you can find a text version that will help you get into the menus........at this link:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=101747&p=951212&hil ... ng#p951212


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This is awesome. thanks.. will my doctor question that my pressure went from 8 to 9 in my cpap history without any doctor's intervention? will that be a problem?