Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

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Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by Dave5059 » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:13 am

Hey I was wondering if using CPAP would lower mouth breathing. Many people snore with their mouths opened so does that mean they should be guided towards a full face mask, or does CPAP sometimes help prevent mouth breathing?
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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by Krelvin » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:19 am

Depends on the user, the mask, position when you sleep, phase of the moon etc.

I am a mouth breather though many nights I don't for the most part.

I don't bother with the nasal mask because I am comfortable with the ffm and for me, it is easier to deal with.
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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by BlackSpinner » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:49 am

I know I do a lot less of it now but gravity still has its effect on my facial structure so I prefer the Hybrid with the chin flap.

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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by Julie » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:07 am

Snoring may often be reduced by changing from being a back sleeper to a side sleeper, but whether or not it helps mouth breathing remains to be seen - I wouldn't assume anything without definite proof (not your girlfriend taking a five minute look one day ).

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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by Dylan » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:40 pm

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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by palerider » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:46 pm

Dylan wrote:The negative pressure of the CPAP causes my tongue to go to the roof of my mouth and block my airway.
"negative pressure"?

are you using the new rare CNAP?

did you ever try breathing in and out through your mouth with your tongue in that position? the air just goes *around* mine.

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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by Dylan » Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:13 pm

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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:59 pm

Dylan wrote:the machine forces air down so my lungs expand
Your diaphragm contracts and moves downward to cause your lungs to expand. CPAP splints the airway open.
Dylan wrote:most of the time it routes back up to my nose
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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by palerider » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:03 pm

Dylan wrote:What I find with the nasal pillow mask is that the machine forces air down so my lungs expand and it creates negative air pressure in my mouth. I can't even talk with the machine on because my tongue keeps getting sucked up. I'm not sure why the positive pressure from the machine doesn't escape my mouth but it doesn't.
uh, no. no negative pressure, nowhere, nope. if you think about it, what you're saying makes no sense whatsoever.

you can't talk because your epiglottis is blocking your oral cavity... though you COULD talk if you work on it a bit.

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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by Dylan » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:16 pm

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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by Dylan » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:32 pm

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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:41 pm

Three years ago when starting CPAP I started using the Swift FX nasal pillows. I didn't have to tape my mouth or use a chinstrap for six months (pure bliss!). It's noteworthy that I generally made myself obnoxious as I bragged about the ease and speed of my adaptation to the nasal masks and CPAP in general. After six months of being a jerk, I started mouth breathing for long periods and from there it was the predictable sequence of testing chinstraps and various taping methods, all culminating in my adoption of a full face mask (FFM). To make a long story short, I think things change and it's bound to happen in this CPAP journey: maybe mouth breathing now then none later, maybe sinusitis and nasal drip, maybe headache come and go. Who knows? The list goes on forever. I wish CPAP was all cut-and-dry, but it isn't, so there's no point to dwell on it? You did ask a good initial question tho. Don't worry about the 'negative pressure' criticism - we know you're not a sleep doctor! Welcome to the forum, in spite of it's rough edges.

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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by palerider » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:53 pm

Dylan wrote:I do not know the biology but I can describe the experience that I feel which is relevant to the question of whether CPAP changes if you are a mouth breather. Using a nasal mask, I breathe in from the machine, my lungs fill up. my tongue is sucked to the roof of my mouth. I no longer breathe from my mouth when I sleep and, despite being a lifelong snorer and mouth breather, I can use a nasal mask comfortably.

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try putting your nasal mask on, turning on the machine, then open your mouth and stick out your tongue.

if your theory of a vacuum is right, then you'll be unable to open your mouth and stick out your tongue.

the *reason* that I'm pointing out the error in your thought is that it would *mislead* other people, because it's wrong.

MANY people have trouble with air leaking from their mouths when using a nasal interface.

I'm glad you don't. but please stop spreading mis-information.

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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by Sheriff Buford » Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:45 pm

To answer the original question... no. A lot of folks try to reduce mouth breathing when starting cpap therapy. I think therapy does nothing but causes attention to mouth breathing. With the volume of air being pumped in, it can make it worse.

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Re: Does mouth breathing get reduced with CPAP?

Post by Enchanter » Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:56 pm

I'm guessing allergies play a factor in mouth breathing. I do mouth breathe a lot, but usually that is when I'm stuffed up. If I'm not stuffed up, I tend to breathe more through my nose. However, anxiety can play role too, I believe. So I think there are many factors that come to play.
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