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by DepartmentOfMeteors
Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:02 am
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Is a Jackery 240 or a deep cycle scooter battery better for emergency backup?
Replies: 9
Views: 872

Re: Is a Jackery 240 or a deep cycle scooter battery better for emergency backup?

I got the equipment and performed an overnight test and thought you might be interested in the result: it worked, but was not w/out its problems. I'd like to thank remstarcpap for helping me pick out the equipment. The first time I tried to perform the test, I hooked everything up but when I plugged...
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:04 pm
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Is a Jackery 240 or a deep cycle scooter battery better for emergency backup?
Replies: 9
Views: 872

Re: Is a Jackery 240 or a deep cycle scooter battery better for emergency backup?

* bump *
It'd be great if I knew that I didn't have to buy hardware that I already have. Specifically the NOCO genius5 when I already have a maintainer and a 2A, 4A, or 6A car charger.
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:15 am
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Is a Jackery 240 or a deep cycle scooter battery better for emergency backup?
Replies: 9
Views: 872

Re: Is a Jackery 240 or a deep cycle scooter battery better for emergency backup?

I'm on the edge of buying an AGM battery but I need some straight answers about charging them. I've been told that car chargers will ruin the ML35-12 - 12 Volt 35AH SLA AGM MighyMax, but I've also been told that my battery maintainer (750mA) is safe to use. But I also have a quick charger that can p...
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:18 pm
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Is a Jackery 240 or a deep cycle scooter battery better for emergency backup?
Replies: 9
Views: 872

Is a Jackery 240 or a deep cycle scooter battery better for emergency backup?

I know, very broad question, but I've got a lot to consider. I think the biggest consideration is shelf life, since going on 8 years of having a CPAP, there has only been 1 night I had to go the entire time w/out breathing. (But the way things are going, I'm sure there'll be more and they'll be more...
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:34 am
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event
Replies: 38
Views: 11902

Re: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event

I the voltage drop issue is why I would recommend using a DC to DC convertor such as the one Resmed sells. Make sure it you are always within the input range, and your output will be constant. 13 cells in series seemed like a fair bet for Resmed in my example above. If the 1.3 V is accurate, you ar...
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:02 pm
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event
Replies: 38
Views: 11902

Re: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event

So you took 18Ah/16 cells =1.1Ah per cell. Trouble is, we have the same number of hours (8) and the same number of amperes (2.2) in each cell. Cells in series increase voltage, not amps. If your starting numbers are correct, each D cell will need to supply the full 18 Ah. If you want 1.1 Ah per cel...
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:44 pm
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event
Replies: 38
Views: 11902

Re: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event

That's... strangely disappointing. If a CPAP draws 53W then a 24V supply will average 2.2A. Over an 8 hour period, that means almost 18AH. So each of those 16 batteries will need to deliver 1.1AH. A lot of LR20s are rated at more than 10AH, but I heard that even pessimistically, you can expect 2AH ...
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:55 pm
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event
Replies: 38
Views: 11902

Re: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event

I see. So to get the charge you want, you have to adjust the current appropriately. How about a switching supply, that allows for 10s at 5A then then nothing for 23s? It'd be a honking big capacitor bank though, even if they are electrolytic. Oh well, I guess I know now why no one came up w/that ide...
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:21 pm
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event
Replies: 38
Views: 11902

Re: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event

I just looked up the datasheet for a Duracell Coppertop D-cell battery. The largest current application they give in the curves is 2 amps. At this draw, the single cell voltage drops to 1.1V in 30 minutes, and to 0.8V after two hours. IMO, this type of battery lacks the power density required for t...
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:02 pm
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event
Replies: 38
Views: 11902

Re: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event

In that case, once I find out what to do, I'll keep the how questions to a minimum. And I have a pretty good idea of how to do it, but that presumes the what . Beyond what I've already discussed, I'd think I'd be building a precision regulator powered by a couple of AAs. But to know if that's even f...
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:22 am
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event
Replies: 38
Views: 11902

Re: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event

In that case, a few other issues get brought up: I don't think the 8 LR20s that would get my 12V would have the required charge. I can still use the same number of batteries in parallel, but I also don't have much experience designing for dry cells that are in parallel, so I don't know how uneven vo...
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:12 am
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event
Replies: 38
Views: 11902

Re: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event

It's not something that I can throw together on short notice, but something that will cost as little as possible, since whatever I get will probably expire before I can use it. If I have to spend 30$ every 5 years for something I never use, that's a bargain. Ok, judging from SleepGeek's comment, it ...
by DepartmentOfMeteors
Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:04 pm
Forum: CPAP and Sleep Apnea Message Board
Topic: Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event
Replies: 38
Views: 11902

Using D cells for that once-in-10-year emergency event

I've seen a lot of talk about batteries for different needs (camping, traveling, etc.) but I'm more concerned w/the situation where I have to spend the entire night w/out power. I've been researching various threads and there are some pretty good solutions, but it seems to me a couple of dozen LR20s...