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Post by Linda3032 » Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:05 pm

Do any of you Swift users wear the tube in the downward position as opposed to over the head?

I'm going to take a 6-8 week trip in a small travel trailer (to the Pacific NorthWest), and think it would be much more convenient to wear a nasal interface in the downward position and have the hose under the covers with me. I used the Nasalaire with the hose under the covers with me for 3 years, so that part wouldn't bother me. I just hate to go back to the Nasalaire after experiencing the comfort of the Aura.

Second question. Does anyone have a Swift that they want to sell? My insurance company won't pay for another mask for another five months.


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Post by brenny » Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:09 pm

I have used swift for the past 5 nights and I can't get used to it. It hurts my nose.

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Post by jkeene » Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:52 pm

Sure, I've used the Swift with the hose downward, tucked under the covers. Worked great, particularly on eliminating rainout. Just in the past few days it's been warm enough in Florida to do without covers, so I started routing the hose up, scrunchied to the headboard. Haven't quite adjusted to that, wind up waking up in the middle of the night, probably because the tug on the mask was coming from an unfamiliar angle. I may go back to the downward lead soon, never had an issue with that configuration.


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Post by Guest » Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:20 pm

I used to let the tube/hose assembly hang loose. However, I believe that method causes slightly more mask leaks, because the tube/hose assembly acted as a lever on the mask whenever I moved around in my sleep. Lately, I have moved the tube to the up position, anchoring it to one of the straps of the head assembly. That way, any movements of the tube/hose apply pressure to the strap, not to the mask itself. There are fewer leaks, I believe.

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Post by chdurie2 » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:17 pm

i always use swift in downward mode. the overhead mode seems awkward to me and creates a noisier nite. there might be one still on ebay that ebay doesn't seem interested in removing. think auction ends/has ended today.

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Post by Jerry69 » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:45 am

Linda, I PM'd you.

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Post by roztom » Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:26 am

I tried my Swift over the head and in the down position.

I found the Down position worked best for preventing rainout since I kept the hose under the covers.

I still haven't been successful with it though - too much pain.

Nice & light otherwise. I also find it noisey and subject to more leaks.

I'm still in the Nasal Interface camp.

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Post by NightHawkeye » Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:46 am

roztom wrote:Nice & light otherwise. I also find it noisey and subject to more leaks.
LOL. That's a fact. Despite its shortcomings though, the Swift is still the best interface I've got. Encore Pro doesn't show any real difference between the Swift and the Ultra Mirage nasal interface, but I get fewer desats and shallower desats with the Swift. I also like the fact that I can wear glasses and watch TV for a few minutes at bedtime.

So I just keep adjusting the Swift through the night as necessary to quiet it or minimize leaks. Last night there were even times when it wasn't leaking or making noise at all. Not sure why that was exactly, but I'm hoping for more.

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Post by roztom » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:29 am

Bill:

If you find a magic bullet for that Swift, let me know.

I'd love to be able to actually use the darn thing.

Best,

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Post by john5757 » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:05 am

I did find that the Swift does gives me the best treatment as far engery wise is concern. The Swift did in the beginning hurt my nose but I rotated the mask every day or two and with time I was able to wear the mask full time without any discomfort.


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Post by Janelle » Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:13 pm

It is natural for a tender body part to feel pain from the infliction of an alien device into it's orifice. So it reacts by hurting, getting inflamed, but after a week or so, it gives in and is adjusted to the presence of that object. This is true of braces, earing aids, pierced earrings and nasal pillow/prong interfaces. I found putting Neosporin in my nose and around the edges really helped to heal the irritation, and now even when I haven't worn it for several months and go back, it doesn't give me any problems

RE: Noise. There have been GOBS of posts on this, but the thing that seems work the best is nylon mesh, just a small piece about an inch square will do, inserted into the barrel. I use the net off Pistachio nuts. But there are also net bags on grapes, small tomatoes and other vegetables at the grocery store. You might even have some of this in your refrigerator already.

What the net does is greatly baffle the air flow and quiets the Swift. I'd say that after doing this my Swift is as quiet as my Mirage Activa, and that is nearly silent. Of course the amount of pressure will play a big role in how much noise you get, too.. I suppose you could put in more net. Don't know of anyone who has tried that. Also adjusting the barrel forward and backward as mentioned in the CD you should have received with the mask, will make a difference in the amount of noise you get.


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Post by snork1 » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:09 pm

rotating with another mask (Activa for me) made the irritation go away eventually.

I use castor oil for a lube and fine tune the strap adjustment between too much pressure vs leaks. The tiniest tweak on the straps can make a huge difference. Rotating the barrel a tiny bit can make a big difference on comfort.

And yes I have the mesh stuffing to quiet the Swift down.

I run the tubing up. Running it down was comfortable, but leaked too easily.

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Post by roztom » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:41 am

I decided to stand up to my Swift.

SO I used it last night and made it about 5 1/2 hours before my tender nose woke me up. This is a record for me so maybe I'm finally getting there.

Swift: 5 Tom: 2

When I woke up besides my being a bit tender, the Swift was also whistling and it wasn't an air leak. Does the SWift whislte with rainout? I also put the mesh baffle in the chamber to cut down on noise.

HAve any of you had whistling with the Swift. Maybe it can double as a musical instrument?

Thanks,

Tom

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Re: Swifty

Post by hecate » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:52 am

roztom wrote:I also put the mesh baffle in the chamber to cut down on noise.
What's the mesh baffle? I didn't get no stinkin' mesh baffle with my swift?


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Post by mousetater » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:59 am

Tom,

I don't have a Swift, but I do hear a high-pitched whistling noise during the 10 minute ramp from 4 to 16 with my UMFF mask. It stops as it gets closer to the final pressure. (I've only had the equipment for 4 days, so don't use me as a measure of anything....)

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