New Swift FX Bella Mask.....

I was wondering if the straps left any cheek marks, that's the real problem I have with the Swift Ly.for her.
Thanks

No, I haven't woken up in the morning with marks on my cheeks yet.

There are no products currently that will work with the loops of the Swift FX Bella. The loops do have little small comfort wraps I think they call them. The issue is going to be the fact that the loops are not easy to take loose from the part that attaches to the nasal pillows barrel part. Even if people could easily take the loops out, it would be a little fiddling to figure out the right way to put them back in so they would curve around your ear properly. I know this all sounds kinda weird, but you will understand it when you have the Bella there to look at in person.

If no one has a problem with face marks from this interface, I guess I won't have a product for it. I will be watching and listening to the ones who sleep with it to determine if there is a need, I will have to work on that. Thanks for asking.

Karen

Pad A Cheek wrote:…The nasal pillows are held in place pretty well with the loops. My problem seems to stem from the short hose that is attached can easily tug on the nasal pillows and change the angle of the fit enough to cause leaks. I have not used this for sleeping, just for testing with the machine running laying down on the bed. Also for me not being able to route my hose over my head always seems to bug me more than it should.…

Karen

Since I am continuing to have leak problems with my Swift FX, I am debating between ordering the Bella loops or completely switching to an overhead routed hose like the Opus 360. Your comment about "not being able to route my hose over my head always seems to bug me more than it should" resonates with me. I tried converting my Swift FX to an over the forehead route as an experiment one night with tape on my head strap, but it seemed to pull on the nasal pillows even more and was a disaster.

Have you ever tried an Opus 360? Better? Worse?

NateS wrote:Have you ever tried an Opus 360? Better? Worse?

Nate, I have tried the Opus 360. It is designed probably better for routing over the head than the Swift FX is when using the fixed clip to the top strap. The Swift LT and the Opus 360 do have a little clip to help hold the short hose in place while routed over the head. This is useful for people who want to keep the short hose more "fixed" in the over the head route. Lessens potential drag that can move the nasal pillows.

The Swift FX doesn't have the little round clip to hold that short hose over head so people have to either fix up something to secure the hose to the top strap or be satisfied with just generally routing the long hose over head but not put enough tension on the short hose to pull the nasal pillows out.

I had trouble with the Opus 360 headgear staying in place. More so than the Swift LT that I was using as primary mask until the Swift FX was released. YMMV with the headgear. The nasal pillows themselves are quite comfortable and I had no issue with them. I just had a problem with the headgear moving all over the place.

I tried routing the hose over my head. I didn't care for it myself. I prefer it loose but then I don't have the leak issues that you have. I also used to have rain out a lot and snorting water up my nose is no fun and when the hose is routed overhead any condensation in the nasal pillows from moisture in our breath can only go back into the nose when everything is routed overhead. It was very annoying to wake up snorting water up my nose. Amazing how just a few drops feels like a cup of water.

My Bella Loops should be here tomorrow and Tuesday I will report on potential stability issues. I figure if it is stable with my letting the hose hang freely down and with my tossing and turning...it should be fairly stable. The only time I ever have the Swift FX nose pillows try to come out is when that back strap slides up on me. It doesn't happen a lot but it does happen.

After the 3rd night of wearing my Bella FX, I still haven't woken up at night with it leaking. I may not even do the trial of going back to my Swift FX that I was talking about. I absolutely love this mask!

Nates I solved my leak problem by putting O Rings under the pillows. The size of O ring you need is Outside Diameter 13/16" x Inside diameter 9/16" by 1/8" thick. Just put the pillow thru the O ring so that it's under the base of the pillow. The name on my package was Danco #93.

How is the mask going. I wondered about the ear things.

Emilia wrote:Not sure about the ear thingys..... https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... -cpap.html

Kairosgrammy wrote:How is the mask going. I wondered about the ear things.

Emilia wrote:Not sure about the ear thingys..... https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... -cpap.html

I know that you may not have been talking to me, but the ear loops are actually quite comfortable. I did have my doubts at first when I saw them, but when you actually get them in your hands you will feel how soft and pliable they are. I have yet to wake up with sore ears.

Just received them in the mail. "Delicate looking" is definitely how I would describe them. My first thought when I saw how thin they were, was how quickly would they stretch out and have to be replaced. I am excited about trying them...wish bedtime was here already. Will post a review in the morning.

sheila1232 wrote:Just received them in the mail. "Delicate looking" is definitely how I would describe them. My first thought when I saw how thin they were, was how quickly would they stretch out and have to be replaced. I am excited about trying them...wish bedtime was here already. Will post a review in the morning.

Good luck! I really hope you like them. Having less on my face and head makes such a difference in wanting to put the CPAP on at night.

I have my Bella Loops now. Very delicate and lightweight. Ear things are a none issue. Extremely comfortable. I suspect if someone finds them to be bothersome that they have it too tight. Will they stretch out? I don't know but the silicone on the head straps and cheek straps never did but this silicone is much, much thinner....so who knows. Only time will tell. I rather doubt that stretching out will be an issue. Lots of room for adjustment if the guys are wondering. I had to adjust it quite small to get it to be "snug" enough. I still have a little left available to bring in just in case it does stretch out a bit.

I normally route my long hose alongside and around the top of my bed pillow down to my nose. So upwards slightly but without hanging the hose upwards over my head. I don't use a hose hanging system.
I see no reason why one couldn't use the hose hanging system with these Loops...just be sure to allow enough movement so that tension doesn't cause the hose to pull the nasal pillows out of the nostrils.

At this point I don't see the need for extra protection on the cheek straps from a Padacheeks product.
While not impossible to come up with a little extra covering, it may not even be an issue that needs anything extra. The little pink sleeves that come with it seem to be quite sufficient. If something is needed I think a covering that encloses both straps at one time with wrap around and secured with small strip of velcro would be the way to go. Removing and sliding on another cover would be a PITA. A quick wrap around might be the way to go. Should I have marks on my cheeks..I will investigate what might work the easiest.

I did lay down with it. Even with small studs in the ears...I really didn't feel the straps with or without the earrings. This may be a personal preference and depend on size of earrings and a person's sensitivity along with placement of the studs or earrings.

In general it does "feel" less stable without the headgear that we normally wear. Not hugely less stable though and part of it is that I am just used to having the head straps for extra security. Tonight I will give it the real test. I don't stay in one spot for any great length of time when I sleep.

squid13 wrote:Nates I solved my leak problem by putting O Rings under the pillows. The size of O ring you need is Outside Diameter 13/16" x Inside diameter 9/16" by 1/8" thick. Just put the pillow thru the O ring so that it's under the base of the pillow. The name on my package was Danco #93.

Thank you - I'm going to try that - Lowe's or Home Depot I assume?

What was it about your leaks that gave you this idea?

What is the principle behind the O rings? - Do they lift the nasal pillows up higher or just keep them open wider or what?

Regards, Nate

NateS wrote:What is the principle behind the O rings? - Do they lift the nasal pillows up higher or just keep them open wider or what?

I think support for the inner cones so they don't tend to collapse and thus leak more. Just provides a little extra stability for the inner cones.

Hi everyone, this new mask sounds very promising! If someone gets it and doesn't like it I would like to try it as I just got a mask a little over a week ago that is didn't for me. Also, I have several masks that didn't work for me is someone would like to trade, all have been clinically cleaned as after one night I knew they wouldn't work.