Oscar shows session data but no graph

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
User avatar
Whiskey-Romeo
Posts: 46
Joined: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:47 am

Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by Whiskey-Romeo » Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:11 pm

What causes this? After months of flawless recording, I have been these results randomly for the last few weeks

The Daily view shows the session data in the lower left corner of the left sidebar (see image and sidebar info below) but there is no graph.
If there is no data, Oscar displays: "Nothing's Here!" in the left sidebar.

https://imgur.com/a/KyRa5AY

Session Information

CPAP Sessions
On Date | Start End | Duration

ResMed Session #1665164160

10/7/2022
12:36:00
13:10:00
00h 34m 00s
ResMed Session #1665199860

10/7/2022
22:31:00
05:45:00
07h 14m 00s
ResMed Session #1665226200

10/8/2022
05:50:00
06:51:00
01h 01m 00s

_________________
MachineMask

User avatar
ChicagoGranny
Posts: 15085
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:43 pm
Location: USA

Re: Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Oct 12, 2022 5:32 pm

Have you tried uninstalling OSCAR and reloading it? You can keep the same data files.

User avatar
Whiskey-Romeo
Posts: 46
Joined: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:47 am

Re: Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by Whiskey-Romeo » Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:45 am

Thanks for the reply. I will give it try today.

_________________
MachineMask

User avatar
Whiskey-Romeo
Posts: 46
Joined: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:47 am

Re: Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by Whiskey-Romeo » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:16 am

Yesterday, I tried to process my SD card, and the last week of data was missing. I noticed the reader was very loose in the USB slot. I moved the reader to a different USB slot, and that missing data showed up.

I have narrowed this down to one of three things: A worn SD card, even though it has been in use only six months and has used only 349 Mb of 29.2Gb. A defective reader or a faulty USB slot.
Moving the reader to a different USB slot seems to solve the problem, but out an abundance of caution, I will replace the reader and the card.

I must be the only person in the whole CPAP talk world to have experienced this.

_________________
MachineMask

lynninnj
Posts: 1323
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:56 am

Re: Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by lynninnj » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:19 am

Whiskey-Romeo wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:16 am
Yesterday, I tried to process my SD card, and the last week of data was missing. I noticed the reader was very loose in the USB slot. I moved the reader to a different USB slot, and that missing data showed up.

I have narrowed this down to one of three things: A worn SD card, even though it has been in use only six months and has used only 349 Mb of 29.2Gb. A defective reader or a faulty USB slot.
Moving the reader to a different USB slot seems to solve the problem, but out an abundance of caution, I will replace the reader and the card.

I must be the only person in the whole CPAP talk world to have experienced this.
I had a ahit walmart sd card that died in about that ling. Get sandisk or other good name brand.

_________________
Machine: AirSense 11 Autoset
Mask: ResMed AirFit N30 Nasal CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: Newbie who loves her machine!
Beware the schoolyard bullies, mean girls, and fragile male egos. Move along if you can’t be kind.

User avatar
robysue1
Posts: 1298
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:39 pm
Location: Buffalo, NY

Re: Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by robysue1 » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:30 am

Whiskey-Romeo wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:16 am
Yesterday, I tried to process my SD card, and the last week of data was missing. I noticed the reader was very loose in the USB slot. I moved the reader to a different USB slot, and that missing data showed up.

I have narrowed this down to one of three things: A worn SD card, even though it has been in use only six months and has used only 349 Mb of 29.2Gb. A defective reader or a faulty USB slot.
Moving the reader to a different USB slot seems to solve the problem, but out an abundance of caution, I will replace the reader and the card.

I must be the only person in the whole CPAP talk world to have experienced this.
OSCAR can't read data that is not recorded to the card.

So the question is why that data did not get written to the card in the first place.

Your machine stores the summary data on board and it will write that data to the SD card any time an SD card is inserted if that data is not already on the card. Sometimes you can get missing detailed data if the SD card is not fully inserted or properly seated in the xPAP's SD card slot. But usually when this happens, a person notices that they didn't insert the card fully when they go to yank the card out of the xPAP, and so they'll insert it fully, let the machine write the data, and then yank the card.

Any chance something like that happened?
Joined as robysue on 9/18/10. Forgot my password & the email I used was on a machine that has long since died & gone to computer heaven.

Correct number of posts is 7250 as robysue + what I have as robysue1

Profile pic: Frozen Niagara Falls

User avatar
ChicagoGranny
Posts: 15085
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:43 pm
Location: USA

Re: Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:36 am

robysue1 wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:30 am
OSCAR can't read data that is not recorded to the card.

So the question is why that data did not get written to the card in the first place.
---------------------->
Whiskey-Romeo wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:16 am
I moved the reader to a different USB slot, and that missing data showed up.

User avatar
Whiskey-Romeo
Posts: 46
Joined: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:47 am

Re: Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by Whiskey-Romeo » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:06 pm

lynninnj wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:19 am


I had a ahit walmart sd card that died in about that ling. Get sandisk or other good name brand.
It was a SanDisk Extreme Pro 32 GB (sadly)

_________________
MachineMask

User avatar
Whiskey-Romeo
Posts: 46
Joined: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:47 am

Re: Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by Whiskey-Romeo » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:18 pm

robysue1 wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:30 am

OSCAR can't read data that is not recorded to the card.

So the question is why that data did not get written to the card in the first place.

Your machine stores the summary data on board and it will write that data to the SD card any time an SD card is inserted if that data is not already on the card. Sometimes you can get missing detailed data if the SD card is not fully inserted or properly seated in the xPAP's SD card slot. But usually when this happens, a person notices that they didn't insert the card fully when they go to yank the card out of the xPAP, and so they'll insert it fully, let the machine write the data, and then yank the card.

Any chance something like that happened?
I re-inserted the card to make sure it was in tight and still no data, which led me suspect the card and the card reader. As previously stated, moving the card reader resulted in successful read. The mystery that started all this is in my original post.
"The Daily view shows the session data in the lower left corner of the left sidebar (see image and sidebar info below) but there is no graph.
If there is no data, Oscar displays: "Nothing's Here!" in the left sidebar."

There was evidence in the lower left pane like below but no graph. This information would not be there unless the card was read.

Session Information

CPAP Sessions
On
Date
Start
End
Duration
ResMed Session #1666322700

10/20/2022
22:25:39
04:53:39
06h 28m 00s
ResMed Session #1666346340

10/21/2022
04:59:16
06:59:16
02h 00m 00s

_________________
MachineMask

User avatar
Whiskey-Romeo
Posts: 46
Joined: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:47 am

Re: Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by Whiskey-Romeo » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:19 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:36 am
robysue1 wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:30 am
OSCAR can't read data that is not recorded to the card.

So the question is why that data did not get written to the card in the first place.
---------------------->
Whiskey-Romeo wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:16 am
I moved the reader to a different USB slot, and that missing data showed up.
I have no real explanation but the previously stated assumptions.

_________________
MachineMask

User avatar
ChicagoGranny
Posts: 15085
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:43 pm
Location: USA

Re: Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by ChicagoGranny » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:36 pm

Whiskey-Romeo wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:19 pm
I have no real explanation but the previously stated assumptions.
Whiskey-Romeo wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:16 am
I noticed the reader was very loose in the USB slot. I moved the reader to a different USB slot, and that missing data showed up.

Occam's Razor: The simplest explanation is preferable.

In this case, the simplest explanation is that one of your USB slots is defective. More trials may reveal the actual problem.

lynninnj
Posts: 1323
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:56 am

Re: Oscar shows session data but no graph

Post by lynninnj » Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:51 pm

Whiskey-Romeo wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:18 pm
robysue1 wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:30 am

OSCAR can't read data that is not recorded to the card.

So the question is why that data did not get written to the card in the first place.

Your machine stores the summary data on board and it will write that data to the SD card any time an SD card is inserted if that data is not already on the card. Sometimes you can get missing detailed data if the SD card is not fully inserted or properly seated in the xPAP's SD card slot. But usually when this happens, a person notices that they didn't insert the card fully when they go to yank the card out of the xPAP, and so they'll insert it fully, let the machine write the data, and then yank the card.

Any chance something like that happened?
I re-inserted the card to make sure it was in tight and still no data, which led me suspect the card and the card reader. As previously stated, moving the card reader resulted in successful read. The mystery that started all this is in my original post.
"The Daily view shows the session data in the lower left corner of the left sidebar (see image and sidebar info below) but there is no graph.
If there is no data, Oscar displays: "Nothing's Here!" in the left sidebar."

There was evidence in the lower left pane like below but no graph. This information would not be there unless the card was read.

Session Information

CPAP Sessions
On
Date
Start
End
Duration
ResMed Session #1666322700

10/20/2022
22:25:39
04:53:39
06h 28m 00s
ResMed Session #1666346340

10/21/2022
04:59:16
06:59:16
02h 00m 00s
When I had my issue with the sd card there were nights I didn’t have the shit chip in correctly and got no data at all.

When I got proper chip but didn’t position it correctly in machine, I got no graphs only stats. When I finally positioned it correctly it’s like it gathered everything that was saved on the machine.

I don’t use oscar though I use sleephq but perhaps it helps anyway.

Sounds sorta like the reader/sd interface is your likely issue.

_________________
Machine: AirSense 11 Autoset
Mask: ResMed AirFit N30 Nasal CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: Newbie who loves her machine!
Beware the schoolyard bullies, mean girls, and fragile male egos. Move along if you can’t be kind.