Problem with moisture forming on left side of bi pap mach

Was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Been using a Respironics System One Bi pap auto machine for two years now. Moisture in the past few months started to build up on the left screen area. Was also getting noisy. Got it replaced with a new one. My machine provider said I have to use hospital grade distilled water. I have been using a Newhome Distiller for almost 7 yrs w/o a problem. So thought might be going bad. I started to buy Walgreens distilled water for new machine, the new machine has moisture building on left side as before. Bought Walmarts distilled water today. Can't find hospital grade locally. What I found on line would cost over $5.00 a gallon. Even before I bought the distiller I had been using store bought distilled water and never had a problem. I am very frustrated at this point. Not sure what to do.

Sharin wrote:Was wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Been using a Respironics System One Bi pap auto machine for two years now. Moisture in the past few months started to build up on the left screen area. Was also getting noisy. Got it replaced with a new one. My machine provider said I have to use hospital grade distilled water. I have been using a Newhome Distiller for almost 7 yrs w/o a problem. So thought might be going bad. I started to buy Walgreens distilled water for new machine, the new machine has moisture building on left side as before. Bought Walmarts distilled water today. Can't find hospital grade locally. What I found on line would cost over $5.00 a gallon. Even before I bought the distiller I had been using store bought distilled water and never had a problem. I am very frustrated at this point. Not sure what to do.

suppliers say the darndest things.

as in, bullshit things.

I sometimes use distilled water, sometimes tap water, the reason for using distilled is to avoid buildup of minerals.

if you're not getting any crap in the tank from your home distilled water, keep using that. if your bullshiter (er, supplier) asks, tell 'em you stole a truckload on the way to a hospital.

btw, I never saw "hospital grade distilled water" while I was in the hospital... I did see STERILE water, but that likely wasn't distilled.

Thank you for your honest opinion. I see where people use tap water and don't have an issue. So I must be doing something wrong. The only other thing that I can think of that could cause a problem is maybe I fill it too high. I always stop at the line but this evening when I went to check on something else, I pulled out the chamber and there was moisture on the bottom. I wiped it out and dumped some of the water out to be safe. Meanwhile, it will be hard to tell if that was the issue because it's all fogged up now and stays that way.

I probably should have been using this board or others long before this. Maybe, I would found out things much sooner. I went to another board just before this one. There I read about a release button on my chamber, I had no idea. I had been using a screw driver for 2 years because I did not have the strength to open it with my hands. Couldn't understand why they would make something so hard to separate. They never show you all the ins and outs when you get new equipment.

Why don't you check with these folks and see if they've got any ideas.......especially if your machine is out of warranty and your regular DME is too stupid and/or liars. They're authorized repair facilities for both Philips/Respironics and ResMed.......and they're long-time members of this forum under the username "Accurate".

http://www.acbio.com


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Hi,

My medical supplies provider is good. They don't always have the right answers for me. They did get me a new machine under the warranty. I have been using it a week now but the moisture from the humidifier is now showing in the display area. Wish they didn't assume we knew everything. Now I am wondering if it was my fault. I always fill to the line. So now I'll do below the line to see if it gets any worse. I have issues with reading things and understanding things. In fact, I am having trouble posting to this board. When I take the link in my email, it takes me to answers to my post. Then I try to post and it says name already used. Maybe I should just leave me signed in all the time but hate doing that.

I really appreciate your comments. Maybe now when I first have an issue, I'll ask for help.

Wulfman... wrote:Why don't you check with these folks and see if they've got any ideas.......especially if your machine is out of warranty and your regular DME is too stupid and/or liars. They're authorized repair facilities for both Philips/Respironics and ResMed.......and they're long-time members of this forum under the username "Accurate".

http://www.acbio.com


Den

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-----"hospital grade distilled water"?
WHAT A CROCK OF GUANO!

chunkyfrog wrote:-----"hospital grade distilled water"?
WHAT A CROCK OF GUANO!

I know, right?

Don't hurt yourself falling over laughing.........

https://www.google.com/search?q=hospita ... 8&oe=utf-8


Den

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Wulfman... wrote:Don't hurt yourself falling over laughing.........

https://www.google.com/search?q=hospita ... 8&oe=utf-8.

so, you're saying that, because there *is* "medical grade" (sterile) distilled water available, that the OP's DME is right and that is the only thing suitable for a CPAP? *raises eyebrow*

palerider wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:Don't hurt yourself falling over laughing.........

https://www.google.com/search?q=hospita ... 8&oe=utf-8.

so, you're saying that, because there *is* "medical grade" (sterile) distilled water available, that the OP's DME is right and that is the only thing suitable for a CPAP? *raises eyebrow*

Absolutely NOT!!! You guys were the ones who seemed to be implying (and joking about it) that it didn't exist.

I've never even seen that type of distilled before and have always used either off-the-shelf distilled or (Brita) filtered water in my machines.


Den

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Wulfman... wrote: or (Brita) filtered water in my machines.

speaking of brita... I read, on a keurig forum, that brita filters do more than just make the water taste better, they've actually got a little bit of an ion bed or something in there that helps remove some of the harder minerals.... I was skeptical, but did some more googling and it seems that's true... helps keep from having to clean your high dollar coffee maker as often.

palerider wrote:

Wulfman... wrote: or (Brita) filtered water in my machines.

speaking of brita... I read, on a keurig forum, that brita filters do more than just make the water taste better, they've actually got a little bit of an ion bed or something in there that helps remove some of the harder minerals.... I was skeptical, but did some more googling and it seems that's true... helps keep from having to clean your high dollar coffee maker as often.

Thanks for that info. That was one of the reasons we got the Brita filtered pitcher......for the coffee maker. It doesn't make that much difference to me, but my wife thinks it tastes better. < shrugs >
As far as "drinking" water, I drink both tap and filtered.


Den

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No...I never believed her but did not have an answer at the time. Told her I had been using distiller for 5 years and bought distilled water before that. But when I got the new machine, I used store bought distilled water, the same problem started to happen again.

One site I found had 255 gallons of hospital grade for $1,300.00 (such a deal). That's better than $20.00 a gallon. Lol
Decided I'll let the condensation mess up the machine and then they'll have to get me a rental or whatever they do.

I just couldn't understand the problem I was having and in searching the Internet, no one else is having a problem with their bipap machine. I never did until now.

palerider wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:Don't hurt yourself falling over laughing.........

https://www.google.com/search?q=hospita ... 8&oe=utf-8.

so, you're saying that, because there *is* "medical grade" (sterile) distilled water available, that the OP's DME is right and that is the only thing suitable for a CPAP? *raises eyebrow*

Quote: the new machine has moisture building on left side as before

Do you have a room humidifier near the cpap?..
Moisture on the inside of the plastic display would indicate moist air inside the housing and cool air outside.
There is very little chance it is coming from the cpap humidifier.
The blower unit inside the unit is quite well sealed ... so the moisture is from ambient air.
Do you wipe it each day with a damp cloth?
Do you move the machine from one place to another each day?
Are there extreme temp/humidity changes from day to night in your bedroom?

Hi,

The moisture is built up on the inside of the plastic display. It doesn't go away but gets worse with each use. The first one I had been using for 2 years. About two months ago, it started fogging up inside the plastic. Since it was still under warranty, they got me a new one. Because she mentioned buying hospital grade distilled water, I decided to buy store distilled water, which I had used early on with other machines. I got the new bipap a week ago. Been using Walmarts and Walgreens distilled water. Moisture build up under plastic once again. It has continued to do that with new machine. I never move my machine. Go out of town once a year and have to bring it with me. Usually in California, I don't have to use the humidifier.
Humidity in Arizona is usually low. So my humidifier had been se for 4 and a few hours before I get up, I change it to 5.

Thought maybe I should not put water to water line. I won't know for awhile if it helps. I have always filled to the line. Then I set humidifier at 3 instead of 4. Set my room humidifier a little higher (it's at other side of the room). Hoping not to have dry mouth. At lease now I know why fog on outside last night. So turned that back down.

I don't wipe every day. I do rinse it out everyday and let it dry on its own. Then once a week clean with vinegar and water.

It's coming from the humidifier. Not that well sealed.......So now hoping if I put water below water line, it will be okay.

grayghost4 wrote:Quote: the new machine has moisture building on left side as before

Do you have a room humidifier near the cpap?..
Moisture on the inside of the plastic display would indicate moist air inside the housing and cool air outside.
There is very little chance it is coming from the cpap humidifier.
The blower unit inside the unit is quite well sealed ... so the moisture is from ambient air.
Do you wipe it each day with a damp cloth?
Do you move the machine from one place to another each day?
Are there extreme temp/humidity changes from day to night in your bedroom?