LSAT wrote:tan wrote:Hmm... mold could be a problem if there is humidity AND there is no air moving. why else is it then recommended to dry out the hose?
My tech recommended so. Instructions says to "air-dry"
LSAT wrote:tan wrote:Hmm... mold could be a problem if there is humidity AND there is no air moving. why else is it then recommended to dry out the hose?
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IMO - cleaning often causes more problems than it resolves.tan wrote:LSAT wrote:tan wrote:Hmm... mold could be a problem if there is humidity AND there is no air moving. why else is it then recommended to dry out the hose?
My tech recommended so. Instructions says to "air-dry"
Would this be some of the same people who adamantly tell the users you can't get/see YOUR data from YOUR machine?tan wrote:LSAT wrote:tan wrote:Hmm... mold could be a problem if there is humidity AND there is no air moving. why else is it then recommended to dry out the hose?
My tech recommended so. Instructions says to "air-dry"
Right, always thought of that. But... do you clean your mask on daily basis? If you do, then with what? Not distilled water certainly?Guest wrote:IMO - cleaning often causes more problems than it resolves.tan wrote:LSAT wrote:tan wrote:Hmm... mold could be a problem if there is humidity AND there is no air moving. why else is it then recommended to dry out the hose?
My tech recommended so. Instructions says to "air-dry"
1. Everyone has different water but most peoples water "will" contain bacteria not yet introduced to the cpap. Yea who uses distilled?
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I think you have a major disagreement here with palerider, and I tend to agree with him for I don't have a breathing disorder during those 16 hours, but I do during the night. Hence, extra careWulfman... wrote:
Use some common sense. Do what YOU think is reasonable. You're exposed to worse stuff the other 16 hours a day when you're not connected to or breathing the filtered air from the CPAP machine.
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I don't know about that but I think you've missed MY point (which I've repeated for many years and some others have picked up on) in that if you REALLY feel the need to clean your hose, do so in the evening before going to bed and that way you won't have to "dry" it and whatever moisture is remaining in it will be mixed with the humidity from the HH tank. Doing otherwise is wasting resources and time.tan wrote:I think you have a major disagreement here with palerider, and I tend to agree with him for I don't have a breathing disorder during those 16 hours, but I do during the night. Hence, extra careWulfman... wrote:
Use some common sense. Do what YOU think is reasonable. You're exposed to worse stuff the other 16 hours a day when you're not connected to or breathing the filtered air from the CPAP machine.
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So your logic is that bacteria will attack IF you have sleep disordered breathing but only when you are sleeping?tan wrote:I think you have a major disagreement here with palerider, and I tend to agree with him for I don't have a breathing disorder during those 16 hours, but I do during the night. Hence, extra careWulfman... wrote:
Use some common sense. Do what YOU think is reasonable. You're exposed to worse stuff the other 16 hours a day when you're not connected to or breathing the filtered air from the CPAP machine.
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Obviously, being asleep makes you less capable to compensate for various obstructions caused by adversary environmental agents such dust, bacteria, mold, etc. Dr. Falcon said something like that a few years ago here: he never sufferred from allergies, yet claritin at bed time significantly improved his sleep. How do you explain that?Guest wrote:So your logic is that bacteria will attack IF you have sleep disordered breathing but only when you are sleeping?tan wrote:I think you have a major disagreement here with palerider, and I tend to agree with him for I don't have a breathing disorder during those 16 hours, but I do during the night. Hence, extra careWulfman... wrote:
Use some common sense. Do what YOU think is reasonable. You're exposed to worse stuff the other 16 hours a day when you're not connected to or breathing the filtered air from the CPAP machine.
I give up. UNCLE
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In my opinion, that's a big fallacy.tan wrote:Obviously, being asleep makes you less capable to compensate for various obstructions caused by adversary environmental agents such dust, bacteria, mold, etc. Dr. Falcon said something like that a few years ago here: he never sufferred from allergies, yet claritin at bed time significantly improved his sleep. How do you explain that?Guest wrote:So your logic is that bacteria will attack IF you have sleep disordered breathing but only when you are sleeping?tan wrote:I think you have a major disagreement here with palerider, and I tend to agree with him for I don't have a breathing disorder during those 16 hours, but I do during the night. Hence, extra careWulfman... wrote:
Use some common sense. Do what YOU think is reasonable. You're exposed to worse stuff the other 16 hours a day when you're not connected to or breathing the filtered air from the CPAP machine.
I give up. UNCLE
I think you may have misinterpreted Den's pointtan wrote:I think you have a major disagreement here with palerider, and I tend to agree with him for I don't have a breathing disorder during those 16 hours, but I do during the night. Hence, extra careWulfman... wrote:
Use some common sense. Do what YOU think is reasonable. You're exposed to worse stuff the other 16 hours a day when you're not connected to or breathing the filtered air from the CPAP machine.
well, personally I find it a lot harder to blow my nose in my sleep than when awake, and if filtering the air more helps cut down on the need to do that, (which of course entails waking up and removing the mask for a moment) then I'm all for itWulfman... wrote:In my opinion, that's a big fallacy.tan wrote: Obviously, being asleep makes you less capable to compensate for various obstructions caused by adversary environmental agents such dust, bacteria, mold, etc.
It does not eliminate "stuff" completely but reduces significantly. Otherwise, why would palerider find an outlet filter helping his allergies? Other people have complained of various problems with their airways being on CPAP, have they not?Wulfman... wrote:In my opinion, that's a big fallacy.tan wrote:Obviously, being asleep makes you less capable to compensate for various obstructions caused by adversary environmental agents such dust, bacteria, mold, etc. Dr. Falcon said something like that a few years ago here: he never sufferred from allergies, yet claritin at bed time significantly improved his sleep. How do you explain that?Guest wrote:So your logic is that bacteria will attack IF you have sleep disordered breathing but only when you are sleeping?tan wrote:I think you have a major disagreement here with palerider, and I tend to agree with him for I don't have a breathing disorder during those 16 hours, but I do during the night. Hence, extra careWulfman... wrote:
Use some common sense. Do what YOU think is reasonable. You're exposed to worse stuff the other 16 hours a day when you're not connected to or breathing the filtered air from the CPAP machine.
I give up. UNCLE
The CPAP filters will keep all of that stuff out of the equipment to begin with. If anything does get into the water, it isn't going to get out. The water vapor molecules are too small to carry anything out of the tank.
All their re-assurances are negated by the last paragraph:http://www.fphcare.com/sleep-apnea/educ ... port/faqs/
Click on "Humidity" and then on "Can germs pass from the humidifier to me?"
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Fear of lawsuits? Worried about sales?The important thing to remember is that all equipment (especially your mask) needs to be cleaned thoroughly on a regular basis, so that it does not become a desirable environment for bacteria to live and grow. Follow the cleaning instructions for all equipment to ensure proper hygiene and cleaning.
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